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You are as sensitive as beliver who defends the crimes of a religious priests.
I'm not sensitive at all - but I've seen your type so many times: you know nothing; yet you think you have nothing to learn, and that you're a position to argue the toss with people who do know.
Have you any idea how tedious that is? If you've come here for help, at least have the basic decency to accept the advice you're given, rather than embarrassing yourself by arguing the toss about things your're self-evidently clueless about.
The problem looks like this: on the gallery screen, all images appear from the library from which I have already edited and exported photos. The photos I have already edited and exported are grayed out.Please I beg of you, use a screen capture app, or even just the Windows print screen, to capture the "gallery screen" and post that in your next, polite, reply. A picture is worth, etc. Please, an actual screen capture not some photo via smartphone.
By the way, Gallery? Not sure what that is, not a LrC term, could be your description, but that screenshot will help.
P.S. just to ward off a possible argumentative issue, when you post that screenshot in your reply, please do not use the attachment option (if available to newly members) but instead use the Insert Photo button. Some members do not trust no matter what, attachments.
as I wrote before- the catalog file was deleted so I can't show the "grayed out" images.
you can see there is one image in the catalog.
I understand that this is not the way, but to illustrate the problem I tried to reproduce the way it works:
1. Entering the folder on the computer where I have already edited the image (JPEG files only)
2. Right click on the file I already edited > open in LR
3. LR imports to the library screen all the files in the computer folder
As you can see, the file I already edited is grayed out.
(I deleted the directory tree in the menu on the left in the attached picture because of the first names of those photographed)ץ
From the author:
I understand that this is not the way, but to illustrate the problem I tried to reproduce the way it works:
1. Entering the folder on the computer where I have already edited the image (JPEG files only)
2. Right click on the file I already edited > open in LR
3. LR imports to the library screen all the files in the computer folder
As you can see, the file I already edited is grayed out.
(I deleted the directory tree in the menu on the left in the attached picture because of the first names of those photographed)ץ
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My remarks:
1. As mentioned as a reply to your above input, the grayed out images in that import screen are images LrC thinks you already imported, hence it does not by default allow you to import.
2. Stop your practice of using Windows Explorer to enter the folder on the catalog, and selecting an image to edit in LrC. That is not how it is supposed to be done, and it is clearly causing problems.
3. LrC is at heart a database, you need to use the file management within LrC. That is within LrC, not outside of LrC, such as using File Explorer, or Finder on a MAC. Strictly speaking, the Folders panel in LrC, and the import screen source and destinations in LrC are not file management, just tools within LrC to accomplish that task, they work with not against your OS file manager such as Windows File Explorer. Doing it the other way works against LrC keeping track of what is where.
I know you are a bit aggrieved at being asked to run LrC in a particular way. I know you think it should work in a particular way, I know you think it should be intuitive like using a Apple Smart Phone, iPad, etc. But please give the above advice from various members some creed.
LrC is not a simple app, PS is worse that way, Lr, the cloud based flavor of Lightroom may be simpler, but also less capable. But most of all please try changing your desired habit of starting a session outside of LrC.
LrC was designed as a way to keep track of where your photos are, what you want to do to them, and how you want to publish them.It was designed to support photographers, both amateur, semi pro, and true pro. It is not designed for snap shots. At the same time it is not as heavy as Photoshop, Photoshop being built around graphics design, all techno and whatnot, Lightroom more like in a darkroom.
Adobe built LrC to be a non destructive editor. To do this they created a parametric program, that involved using a database to keep track of each modification, of each photo file location, of each user specified change. Your catalog is that database. If you fight the use of the database, it fails. So, when using LrC, start by opening LrC, not by first selecting a file.
Just to clarify - I have no problem starting LR and transferring files from my Win File Explorer for processing. and it seems that after I pointed to the folder on my computer, LR imported it again and the file could be re-edited without deleting the catalog file. Thank God!- and you.
The question is whether it's possible to configure this version of LR not to manage anything, not to "remember" any action and not to hide any edited file folder etc.
I just want to edit the images in LR editing tools.
The structure of my folders and my work process provides me with a good level of order and logic and I don't need help from the software to remeber what has been edited or when.
@Takeone.Digital, My name is Denis welcome to the forum.
I have been using Lightroom since it was launched in Feb 2007. I agree with you there is no "edit" function in LrC to use on image files. First off you can only work with images that have been imported to the LrC Catalog.
LrC never makes changes to the original images whatever work you do in LrC including "adjustments" done in the Develop Module all that metadata is stored in the Catalog. While you work in LrC it reads and writes constantly to the Catalog.
There is also an option to Automatically write metadata to the file however that is a secondary function that facilitates sharing metadata to other applications mainly Bridge, Photoshop / Camera Raw. There are also menu options to write and read metadata to/from the file manually.
There is a menu option Photo > Edit-in which allows you to send an image to actually edit an image in another application.
When you export a image from LrC the adjustments you have made are applied to the newly created image and if that image is imported to the Catalog there is no way to re-edit the adjustments made on export. The original image is still available for further adjustments if was not deleted from disk or removed from the Catalog.
See the screen captures.
Since you are working with LrC you must have at least the Photography Plan and have access to Photoshop / Camera Raw, Bridge, and the Lightroom ecosystems applications.
It is important to be aware that Lightroom is a completely standalone application and does not require any other Adobe application to be installed on your computer for it to function.
Lightroom Classic is an alternative to Bridge /Camera Raw (plugin for PS) Lightroom is dependent on the info in the Catalog File while Bridge/Camera Raw work with the info in the file, they cannot read or write to the Lightroom Catalog file.
I also find the following very confusing for new LrC users. If you look at the screen captures above LrC is referred to as Lightroom Classic however, if you click on About Lightroom Classic the popup reads Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. That is misleading since LrC does not function like Photoshop. More of a marketing tool I believe.
Thanks Dennis. I get the point about the catalog, I think. The names and the interface are confusing. Actually the entire interface does not support the workflow that Adobe defined. Look at the import button - the size color and placement of the starting phase of the editing procces.
If the user is in a library window (attached) and wants to add images for edit - nothing from what he sees in the interface helps to accomplish the task.
If I want to switch to edit from another PC folder, I don't see how to do it.
I mean it. - I have to close LR tight now and open it again to see if from the "home page" I will get the option.
They sure complicated things and I suspect it's not to improve the "work process" or the "user experience". It's to let you get used to the "corporate design language" just like Google's Gmail which looks different from every email client before it lounched.
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