Why are my pictures so different from develop to library module?

[Carlos35019567yazq]

Hello. I've read some other topics about issues like mine but nothing that a i've tried worked for me. First of all, sorry for my bad english. The problem is that Images look very different between devolp and library modules. I'm using windows 11, lightroom classic 13.2,  an LG monitor ultrawike 29" 29wk600 model with  AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT video adapter importing using 1:1 previews and it doesn't matter what I try to do differente, the difference between the imagens in the modules are so different. In develop imagens looks sharper and with more texture as the example below: (first one from  develop and the second from library).

Other example (first one from develop and second one from library)

What do you think should I do to solve this, please? 
Thank you!

[John R Ellis]

While there are differences in how Library and Develop display photo details, the examples you posted look larger than normal. Next steps:

1. View the Library and Develop images at 100% (View > Zoom To 100%).  If you still see significant differences, post screenshots of the same portion of the image from Library and Develop.

2. In Library, after zooming to 100%, zoom back to Fit. Does it now look sharper and closer to Develop? If it looks sharper after zooming to 100% and back to Fit, that suggests that the 1:1 preview wasn't originally displayed, and we can dig into that more.

[Carlos35019567yazq]

Thank you so much for your reply! 
I did what you told me, viewed in 100% zoom in both develop and library. I dont think this made things better as you can see below:

After this I zoomed back to fit and didnt notice differences from before. There are big differences yet.

[Carlos35019567yazq]

This is hopw it looks after zooming 100% and zooming back to fit.

[D Fosse]

Your 100% examples are tonally absolutely identical - but the Develop screenshot appears to have sharpening applied. That sharpening is for some reason not there in the Library screenshot.

I have no idea why, I can't reproduce that here. All changes reflect right away. Maybe a corrupt Preview cache? I'd try to delete the Preview cache and let it rebuild.

The color example is still "loading..." in Develop, so that's not a valid comparison. It looks like the monitor profile is not fully loaded. I've seen people complain of very slow loading in Develop at times, again I don't know why, and again I can't reproduce it here.

Maybe this is all down to slow loading? That is in itself a problem, of course, but it always helps to narrow down the problem.

[Carlos35019567yazq]

Thank you!

You are right, I captured the image when it still was loading, my mistake. I am going to post it right now. I opened in develop, waited for 1 minute and took the shot, did the same in library before take the shot.

Colors now look pretty thye same but still looks differente in sharpening. 

What do you mean with delete preview cache, please? Delete the pictures in lightroom and import it again? I did it and it didn't work.

[D Fosse]

There was no need to delete and reimport.

This is the preview cache, sitting beside your catalog file:

The previews you see in Library are stored as jpegs, separate from the original raw file, in this cache. These previews should be updated as you work. The preview cache is there to speed things up in Library. It can be deleted, and then it will rebuild as new previews are needed and generated.

[Carlos35019567yazq]

I deleted the file, closed lightroom and opened it again and it didnt work. I forgot to say that when I export the picture it gets unsharpened like in library.

@John R Ellis 

@D Fosse 

[John R Ellis]

Please do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

[Carlos35019567yazq]

I realized that when i turn Graphics Processor off, the develop image gets less sharpened and the images look more like each other, it gets better. I paste below the info you requested, using graphics processos "ON".

Lightroom Classic version: 13.2 [ 202402141005-bf1aeb84 ]

License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en

Operating system: Windows 11 - Business Edition

Version: 11.0.22631

Application architecture: x64

System architecture: x64

Logical processor count: 16

Processor speed: 2,4GHz

SqLite Version: 3.36.0

CPU Utilisation: 1,0%

Built-in memory: 32598,8 MB

Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 169,5MB / 8147,2MB (2%)

Real memory available to Lightroom: 32598,8 MB

Real memory used by Lightroom: 1861,8 MB (5,7%)

Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 2345,0 MB

GDI objects count: 943

USER objects count: 2662

Process handles count: 2836

Memory cache size: 45,3MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 16.2 [ 1763 ]

Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5

Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2

Camera Raw virtual memory: 773MB / 16299MB (4%)

Camera Raw real memory: 775MB / 32598MB (2%)

Cache1: 

Preview1- RAM:22,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, IMG_6450.CR2

Preview2- RAM:75,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, IMG_6449.CR2

NT- RAM:97,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, Combined:97,0MB

Cache2: 

final1- RAM:189,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, IMG_6450.CR2

final2- RAM:189,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, IMG_6449.CR2

T- RAM:378,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, Combined:378,0MB

Cache3: 

m:45,3MB, n:94,6MB

U-main: 94,0MB

System DPI setting: 96 DPI

Desktop composition enabled: Yes

Standard Preview Size: 2560 pixels

Displays: 1) 2560x1080

Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info: 

DirectX: AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT (31.0.24027.1012)

Init State: GPU for Display supported by default with image processing and export supported in the custom mode

User Preference: Auto

Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic

Library Path: C:\Users\Carlos\Pictures\Lightroom\Lightroom Catalog.lrcat

Settings Folder: C:\Users\Carlos\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins: 

1) AdobeStock

2) Flickr

3) Gradient Map

4) Nikon Tether Plugin

Config.lua flags: None

Adapter #1: Vendor : 1002

Device : 73ef

Subsystem : 50271462

Revision : c1

Video Memory : 8147

Adapter #2: Vendor : 1414

Device : 8c

Subsystem : 0

Revision : 0

Video Memory : 0

AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024

AudioDeviceName: $$$/dvaaudiodevice/SystemDefaultAndEffectiveDeviceName=System Default - Fones de ouvido (STANER)#{comment}DVAAU-4201250: Open the audio hardware preferences page.

AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2

AudioDeviceSampleRate: 44100

Build: LR5x120

Direct2DEnabled: false

GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 8

GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 8

GL_ACCUM_GREEN_BITS: 8

GL_ACCUM_RED_BITS: 8

GL_ALPHA_BITS: 8

GL_BLUE_BITS: 8

GL_DEPTH_BITS: 32

GL_GREEN_BITS: 8

GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 8192

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 16384

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 8

GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 16384,16384

GL_RED_BITS: 8

GL_RENDERER: AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT

GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.60

GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8

GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc.

GL_VERSION: 4.6.0 Compatibility Profile Context 24.3.1.240312

GPUDeviceEnabled: false

OGLEnabled: true

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[John R Ellis]

Next steps to narrow down the issue:

1. Update to the slightly newer graphics driver for your graphics processor:

https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/graphics/radeon-rx/radeon-rx-6000-series/amd-r...

Most likely won't make a difference, but it would be good to rule out the driver. Import a fresh copy of one of the problem photos to ensure that LR builds fresh previews. Does the problem still occur?

2. Try setting Preferences > Performance > Use Graphics Processor to Off.  Does that affect newly imported fresh copies?

3. Select a problem photo in Library and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File. Upload the raw file and its .xmp sidecar to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here. We can see if the issue occurs on other LR installations or is specific to yours.

[D Fosse]

I forgot to say that when I export the picture it gets unsharpened like in library.

I realized that when i turn Graphics Processor off, the develop image gets less sharpened and the images look more like each other

By @Carlos35019567yazq

There is something really strange going on here. This rather clearly points to the GPU driver.

And if this is happening at 100% view, lots of red flags come up. That GPU is doing something weird.

It has come to my attention recently (not being familiar with AMD) that AMD very aggresively add gaming-specific modifications to almost everything, as default settings. I would assume the GPU driver is a particular target for this.

So what I would do at this point is go on a hunt. Find everything that looks like a gaming setting, and kill it. Not just in the GPU driver, but system wide. I have for a long time noticed that AMD systems seem more prone to problems than Intel, and this looks like a very likely explanation.

[MinL]

In Preferences you have to set "Use Graphic Processor" on "Off". It has helped me, the colors are the same in Library and Develop views.

[D Fosse]

Well, that's not a fix, just sweeping it under the carpet. You lose a lot of functionality without the GPU.

The proper fix is to find out what makes the GPU do this. Sometimes a new driver is all it takes.