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(Windows) Takes 1 Minute or more to move between images

New Here ,
May 25, 2024 May 25, 2024

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Since upgrading to Lightroom Classic 13.3, the performance has become extremely slow.
Various operations have become very slow; for example, it takes about a minute to move to the Develop module or to move between images in the Develop module.
There were no issues when using Lightroom Classic 13.2.
Is there anyone else experiencing a similar issue?

I have about 200,000 images in my catalog, so that might be one of the reasons, but since it was working fine with version 13.2, I suspect that there might be some degradation associated with upgrading to 13.3.

CPU:AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
GPU:GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
RAM:64GB
storage:2TB SSD x2 (15GB+ available for each drive)

Below is the system information:

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3 [ 202405092057-40441e28 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en
Operating system: Windows 10 - Business Edition
Version: 10.0.19045
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 24
Processor speed: 3.6GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
CPU Utilisation: 5.0%
Power Source: Plugged In, 255% 
Built-in memory: 65439.1 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 6222.7MB / 12010.0MB (51%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 65439.1 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 3858.8 MB (5.8%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 11095.9 MB
GDI objects count: 707
USER objects count: 2408
Process handles count: 9441
Memory cache size: 458.6MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3 [ 1863 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 1733MB / 32719MB (5%)
Camera Raw real memory: -3071MB / 65439MB (-4%)

Cache1: 
Final1- RAM:469.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, DSC04405.ARW
Final2- RAM:469.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, DSC04403.ARW
Final3- RAM:755.0MB, VRAM:4099.0MB, DSC04404.ARW
NT- RAM:1693.0MB, VRAM:4099.0MB, Combined:5792.0MB

Cache2: 
m:458.6MB, n:1407.2MB

U-main: 132.0MB

System DPI setting: 120 DPI
Desktop composition enabled: Yes
Standard Preview Size: 3840 pixels
Displays: 1) 3840x2160
Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info: 
DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (31.0.15.3203)
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: GPU for Export enabled

Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: D:\Photos\LightroomCatalogs\2019\2019-Lr13.3.lrcat
Settings Folder: C:\Users\Tetsuya\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins: 
1) DxO PhotoLab 6
2) DxO PhotoLab 6 Importer
3) HDR Efex Pro 2

Config.lua flags: 

Adapter #1: Vendor : 10de
Device : 2782
Subsystem : 51301462
Revision : a1
Video Memory : 12010
Adapter #2: Vendor : 1414
Device : 8c
Subsystem : 0
Revision : 0
Video Memory : 0
AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024
AudioDeviceName: $$$/dvaaudiodevice/SystemDefaultAndEffectiveDeviceName=System Default - BenQ EW3280U (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)#{comment}DVAAU-4201250: Open the audio hardware preferences page.
AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2
AudioDeviceSampleRate: 48000
Build: LR5x120
Direct2DEnabled: false
GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 16
GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 16
GL_ACCUM_GREEN_BITS: 16
GL_ACCUM_RED_BITS: 16
GL_ALPHA_BITS: 0
GL_BLUE_BITS: 8
GL_DEPTH_BITS: 24
GL_GREEN_BITS: 8
GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 16384
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 32768
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 4
GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 32768,32768
GL_RED_BITS: 8
GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.60 NVIDIA
GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8
GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
GL_VERSION: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 532.03
GPUDeviceEnabled: false
OGLEnabled: true
 
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Community Expert ,
May 26, 2024 May 26, 2024

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You are not using the latest driver for the GPU.

First, please try if it helps to update to the latest driver version: https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/224750/en-us/

 

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Community Expert ,
May 26, 2024 May 26, 2024

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... and, once updated, try to set GPU preference to "Automatic" to enable full GPU support.

 

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Explorer ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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I have the very same problem on my iMac M1 

Any advice most welcome as progress between images in the Develop module is glacial 

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LEGEND ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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I have the very same problem on my iMac M1 

Any advice most welcome as progress between images in the Develop module is glacial 


By @Nick-13


Advice already given in this thread, did you try it?

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Explorer ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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The above advice appears to realte to Windows PC's, not Mac, unless I have missed somethign 

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Community Expert ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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Read my post below ....

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New Here ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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Same here on MacMini M1 (Sonoma 14.5) and Lightroom CC 13.3

 

After some minutes of working, Lightroom CC becomes practically unusable. Even applying Presets, flagging files as "Picked" or adding them to a "Target Collection" takes ages. The overall system performance is OK, everything else e.g. playing Youtube videos, browsing the web, etc... is working as expected in parallel. No "spinning beachball" or anyhing like that. It seems as if Lightroom or the Catalog internally becomes very busy for some reason.

After some seconds all actions that have been issues in the meantime are done in one go, comparable to some tasks that are queued and then are released all of a sudden.

 

I didn't have any issues before the 13.3 update, so I suppose it is directly related.

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Community Expert ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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@Nick-13 

@dhphotographysbg 

Please open a new thread with your issue, as this thread discusses driver issues on Windows and won't help you much.

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Community Beginner ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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Why should he open a new thread? You made this about driver issues on Windows. Which is completely off the mark. You should go to another thread with your useless comments. A lot of people including myself experience performance problems with version 13.3. And you think it is fixed with updating to latest GPU driver. Come on dude!

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Explorer ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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I'm experiencing the same. 'Previous' button not working, copy and paste either, syncing very slow, cropping doing and undoing.

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Explorer ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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No es que LR Classic sea precisamente brillante en su funcionamiento, pero tras la actualizacion 13.3, el rendimiento se ha vuelto insufriblemente lento: actualizaciones de carpetas (10 - 20 fotos), sincronizacion con el ecosistema web. Un verdadero desastre.  He actualizado todos los drivers de todo el hardware de mi sistema, pero no ha mejorado nada.

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New Here ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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It is not a DPU driver issue, i ran my updates and it got slower.

 

current performance numbers is task manager

 

11+% cpu usage when i try to do anything, 20% was highest noticed spike

5000+ mg ram usage

 

it is completely unusable. 

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Explorer ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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Tried it but 13.3 is unusable slow. Had to roll back to 13.2.

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Community Beginner ,
May 27, 2024 May 27, 2024

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I confirm the performance of this version 13. Three have become catastrophic, the worst in years. I had never observed such a loss of performance compared to the previous version during past updates.

 

I was an official beta tester for several years, from Lightroom 1 to Lightroom 8. My catalog contains approximately 750,000 RAW files, and until now, everything was extremely smooth. But since version 13.3, it has become a sort of nightmare.

 

I observed this collapse in responsiveness on both of my machines : a MacBook Air M1 with 16 GB of RAM and 2 TB of SSD. And a Mac Mini M1 also with 16 GB of RAM and 2 TB of SSD. I attempted to optimize the catalogs on both machines : but unfortunately, I couldn't restore normal responsiveness.

 

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Community Beginner ,
May 28, 2024 May 28, 2024

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Same here!!!

After updating LrC to the 13.3 version, work becomes much more painful.

Do something about it, Adobe!!

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2024 May 28, 2024

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Agreed.  Running on an M2 MBP.  Performance has become terrible.

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2024 May 28, 2024

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How does adobe do a load of beta testing with user and then put out the worst update known to man! Adobe sort your updates out!!!

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New Here ,
May 28, 2024 May 28, 2024

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Having the same problems - I am trying to get work out to clients and the software is causing deep frustration.  Just trying a fresh re-install and if that doesn't work I may just wash my hands of it after being a customer since before Adobe bought it out (I can't recall the old name now!).

DXO is looking tempting if this isn't sorted pronto!

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Explorer ,
May 31, 2024 May 31, 2024

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Did Lightroom start to work better after reinstalling? I have severe issues on my M1 Max Macbook. In the past I fixed a similar issue by removing everything and reinstalling, but I have limited time at the moment.

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Explorer ,
Jun 02, 2024 Jun 02, 2024

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I did a full re-install but still unusable slow. Only thing that helped was rolling back to 13.2.

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New Here ,
Jul 18, 2024 Jul 18, 2024

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oh great news - how do you do this?  I have just been told by Adopbe support my laptop no longer has enough vram to support Lightroom (It is 2 years old and carefully checked for specs to run Adobe products).  Photoshop is like lightening! But suddently slowed down in the last few weeks and no unusable depite a clean reinstall, and many other attempted fixes.  I have wasted days trying to work out what is wrong. So I am faced with invest in a new computer, mover from lightroom which I am tempted to do but logisitcal nightmare. But none of which deals with my embarassment of telling clients I cannot get stuff delivered right now...  

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Jul 18, 2024 Jul 18, 2024

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Ahh, I have continued reading and see even with other GPUs with the 2gb vram I was told was necessary (I have 1.6 and was looking at adding an eGPU) people are having the same problem.....

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New Here ,
Jul 18, 2024 Jul 18, 2024

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So I'm not sure if this is going to be everyone's issue, but I discovered mine.

My card reader was under preforming so imports were taking forever. This was locking up light room entirely.

I unplugged the reader and card and blew them out and plugged it all back in. Started my import and waited for it to finalize before going to developing. I also let it sit for a few minutes before starting edits after the import finished. I have not had issues since. 

Tldr: May not be an everyone issue but check cards and reader, give importing time to complete before developing. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 18, 2024 Jul 18, 2024

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That's great you found a culprit! The slownesses I've had are definitely not related to importing (just browsing/editing across different sessions entirely apart from any importing), but good for people to know and to try.

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