(Windows) Takes 1 Minute or more to move between images

[switchpot]

Since upgrading to Lightroom Classic 13.3, the performance has become extremely slow.

Various operations have become very slow; for example, it takes about a minute to move to the Develop module or to move between images in the Develop module.

There were no issues when using Lightroom Classic 13.2.

Is there anyone else experiencing a similar issue?

I have about 200,000 images in my catalog, so that might be one of the reasons, but since it was working fine with version 13.2, I suspect that there might be some degradation associated with upgrading to 13.3.

CPU:AMD Ryzen 9 5900X

GPU:GeForce RTX 4070 Ti

RAM:64GB

storage:2TB SSD x2 (15GB+ available for each drive)

Below is the system information:

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3 [ 202405092057-40441e28 ]

License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en

Operating system: Windows 10 - Business Edition

Version: 10.0.19045

Application architecture: x64

System architecture: x64

Logical processor count: 24

Processor speed: 3.6GHz

SqLite Version: 3.36.0

CPU Utilisation: 5.0%

Power Source: Plugged In, 255% 

Built-in memory: 65439.1 MB

Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 6222.7MB / 12010.0MB (51%)

Real memory available to Lightroom: 65439.1 MB

Real memory used by Lightroom: 3858.8 MB (5.8%)

Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 11095.9 MB

GDI objects count: 707

USER objects count: 2408

Process handles count: 9441

Memory cache size: 458.6MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3 [ 1863 ]

Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5

Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2

Camera Raw virtual memory: 1733MB / 32719MB (5%)

Camera Raw real memory: -3071MB / 65439MB (-4%)

Cache1: 

Final1- RAM:469.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, DSC04405.ARW

Final2- RAM:469.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, DSC04403.ARW

Final3- RAM:755.0MB, VRAM:4099.0MB, DSC04404.ARW

NT- RAM:1693.0MB, VRAM:4099.0MB, Combined:5792.0MB

Cache2: 

m:458.6MB, n:1407.2MB

U-main: 132.0MB

System DPI setting: 120 DPI

Desktop composition enabled: Yes

Standard Preview Size: 3840 pixels

Displays: 1) 3840x2160

Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info: 

DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (31.0.15.3203)

Init State: GPU for Export supported by default

User Preference: GPU for Export enabled

Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic

Library Path: D:\Photos\LightroomCatalogs\2019\2019-Lr13.3.lrcat

Settings Folder: C:\Users\Tetsuya\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins: 

1) DxO PhotoLab 6

2) DxO PhotoLab 6 Importer

3) HDR Efex Pro 2

Config.lua flags: 

Adapter #1: Vendor : 10de

Device : 2782

Subsystem : 51301462

Revision : a1

Video Memory : 12010

Adapter #2: Vendor : 1414

Device : 8c

Subsystem : 0

Revision : 0

Video Memory : 0

AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024

AudioDeviceName: $$$/dvaaudiodevice/SystemDefaultAndEffectiveDeviceName=System Default - BenQ EW3280U (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)#{comment}DVAAU-4201250: Open the audio hardware preferences page.

AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2

AudioDeviceSampleRate: 48000

Build: LR5x120

Direct2DEnabled: false

GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_GREEN_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_RED_BITS: 16

GL_ALPHA_BITS: 0

GL_BLUE_BITS: 8

GL_DEPTH_BITS: 24

GL_GREEN_BITS: 8

GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 16384

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 32768

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 4

GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 32768,32768

GL_RED_BITS: 8

GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti/PCIe/SSE2

GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.60 NVIDIA

GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8

GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation

GL_VERSION: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 532.03

GPUDeviceEnabled: false

OGLEnabled: true

[shorted to relevant information and moved from bugs to discussions according to the community rules - Mod.]

[axel-maiden]

I saw that there seems to be a v.13.3.1 now. Has anyone dared to upgrade and see if it's improved?

[E. Wilson]

Saw that too and interested in others' experiences. Didn't see any perf or catalog mentions in the short list of fixes, though, so I haven't tried it.

[kentonw23899589]

Ooooooh! Can someone please try it out and report back? 

I already reverted back to 13.2 to finish editing some photos that are late because of 13.3 slowdowns. As soon as I'm done with that, I might consider trying 13.3.1. I'll report my findings when I do, but it might be 15 days until I try it. 

[Birddogs]

I updated and still so slow I can't work.  I have client photos to get out and what should have taken me one night has now taken me 7 days.  I'm at a loss here and having to apologize to clients now.  Totally ridiculous.  

[Frank_B]

Updated to Lrc Classic 13.3.1
The performance issue seems to be resolved but I only did a quick check for now.
I've tested switching back and forth from Grid to Develop in varoius folders that were extremely slow in the previous version. Switching from modes and between photos is faster than recently. I'll confirm after I'll have a chance to work a bit longer.

[E. Wilson]

Will be great to hear, Frank.

For ref, about how many images are tracked in your catalog? I've seen cases with (hundreds to few thousands) being okay with 13.3. Seems ones (like me) with 100s of thousands had much less luck.

[Frank_B]

@E. WilsonSo far so good with 13.3.1 version. No dramatic delays and freezes like in the previous version yet.
Around 150 to 200k photos in the .lrcat file

[Birddogs]

Update did nothing to resolve my issues.  Still slow as molasses since 13.3, even with latest update.  

[GoldingD]

Birddogs

Please post your System Information as Lightroom Classic (LrC) reports it. In LrC click on Help, then System Info, then Copy. Paste that information into a reply. Please present all information from first line down to and including Plug-in Info. Info after Plug-in info can be cut out as that is just so much dead space to us non-Techs and it takes up vast amounts of scroll space making the reply less readable and less likely that others will bother with your post.

[Birddogs]

Hopefully you can help.  At this point I'm in desperation mode.  Edits are taking me hours instead of minutes.  Pulling my hair out.

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3.1 [ 202405311538-6d7c0308 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 12
Processor speed: 2.9GHz
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Power Source: Plugged In, 100%
Built-in memory: 32,768.0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 2,137.6MB / 4,096.0MB (52%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 32,768.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 2,296.8 MB (7.0%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 47,034.8 MB
Memory cache size: 165.2MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3.1 [ 1889 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 935MB / 16383MB (5%)
Camera Raw real memory: 1005MB / 32768MB (3%)

Cache1:
Preview1- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0245.CR3
Preview2- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0236.CR3
Preview3- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0238.CR3
Preview4- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0244.CR3
Preview5- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0246.CR3
Final6- RAM:166.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0242.CR3
Preview7- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0237.CR3
Preview8- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0243.CR3
Final9- RAM:166.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0240.CR3
Preview10- RAM:40.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0239.CR3
Final11- RAM:172.0MB, VRAM:1,023.0MB, 20240528 MudDogs LAX Boys K12 0241.CR3
NT- RAM:824.0MB, VRAM:1,023.0MB, Combined:1,847.0MB

Cache2:
m:165.2MB, n:819.6MB

U-main: 71.0MB

Standard Preview Size: 2048 pixels
Displays: 1) 3360x2100

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: AMD Radeon Pro 560X
Init State: GPU for Image Processing supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Users/keithlawyer/Pictures/Lightroom/Lightroom Catalog-v13-3.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/keithlawyer/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Topaz Photo AI

Config.lua flags:

[walstonphoto]

Updated to 13.3.1 - For reference I have just over 800k images in my catalog.  The update prvovided speed improvements, BUT (it's a big but) I can not rate, flag, apply user presets to edits, export files, batch process files, raname files...plus whatever else is not working.  In other words it's still a mess.  My sync issue will have to wait.  I need to be able to deliver edited images first. 

[Victoria Bampton LR Queen]

@walstonphoto If you have sync issues, there's a good chance that's what's causing the performance issues. So when you've got a gap in your schedule, this might help: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-regarding-sync-issues-in-13-3-and-rem...

[walstonphoto]

Thanks for the link.  All my logs were submitted to Adobe engineers on May 28th in relation to the sync issues (waiting to hear back for them).   Right now I have sync turned off for my deivce apps and Classic.  

[bcdavis75-1]

Does turning sync off actually solve the issue?

[walstonphoto]

No, it does not.  I turned sync off before the update, as recomended by support to troubleshoot the sync issues I was having.  The update to 13.3 was supposed to solve my sync issue, which it did not, but it did lead to the slowdown issues.  Sync is still off, and I still have issues with basic workflow functions.

[MrApricots]

Add my system to this list of slow LrC 13.3.1 users: Mac Mini M2 running Sonoma 14.5.

Accessing menu commands, clicking on the next image in the Develop module, adjusting crop dimensions, and updating keywords, so far are painfully slow operations compared to previous LrC versions.

Lightroom Classic version: 13.3.1 [ 202405311538-6d7c0308 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 14
Version: 14.5.0 [23F79]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB
Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 139.0MB / 10,922.6MB (1%)
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 1,710.8 MB (10.4%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 423,363.2 MB
Memory cache size: 579.6MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 16.3.1 [ 1889 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 814MB / 8191MB (9%)
Camera Raw real memory: 1062MB / 16384MB (6%)

Cache1:
Final1- RAM:352.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, M_20240607_DSC_2477.JPG
Final2- RAM:352.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, M_20240607_DSC_2583.JPG
Final3- RAM:35.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, 2F93C8AA-DAC5-447F-8D23-0401DA7D05BD.dng
NT- RAM:739.0MB, VRAM:0.0MB, Combined:739.0MB

Cache2:
m:579.6MB, n:739.6MB

U-main: 255.0MB

Standard Preview Size: 1920 pixels
Displays: 1) 1920x1080

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M2
Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
User Preference: Auto

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Volumes/T7Shield4TB/LightroomCatalog/Lightroom Catalog3vRstrd531_13-3.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/.../Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Any Filter
3) Any Tag
4) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
5) Find Duplicates 2
6) Flickr
7) jb ListView
8)jb: CaptureTime to Exif
9) jb: Search+Replace
10) jb: Syncomatic
11) LensTagger Exif Tool
12) LR/Mogrify 2
13) LR/Transporter
14) Luminar
15) Nikon Tether Plugin
16) ON1 Effects Free 10
17) ON1 NoNoise AI 2022
18) Photo list importer
19) Teekesselchen
20) Topaz Photo AI

Config.lua flags:

Added: Activity monitor data:

when LrC is processing a Develop module image switch, Acitivty Monitor shows LrC at 325% CPU and Memory usage at 7.87 GB. After the Develop module opens the clicked image (in about 10 sec) the %CPU drops to about 40% used by LrC with the next highest being WindowServer and kernal_task, both in the low 20% usage range.

[Miran37971026z9rq]

Had the same issues. Specifically, I noticed that LRc was working sor of ok, until I applied a mask to one of the images. Then everything, for all the images in any folder, develop or library module starting to work horrendously slow. Updated Windows (10), updated GPU driver (3060), nothing worked.

Then I removed all the plug-ins (I'm not using any anyways). And now the LrC it's working fine.

Hope it helps.

[Miran37971026z9rq]

Spoke to soon, sorry. As soon as I open masking section everything slows down. Even just opening a new radial filter takes forever. And after that move, all other tasks for any other image (especially zoom-in-out, cropping) moves into snail mode.

[Fotosetbyjames]

Same issue, has anyone got a response or help from support on this or has it just been silent??? I have another thread going and don't see any replies from staff or support.

[walstonphoto]

I have talked to tech-support over 20 times in the last two months with no resolution to my sink or performance issues. I have another call scheduled tonight in a couple of hours with no hope that they're going to be able to resolve anything at this point. If the issue goes beyond their prompt script, then all they can do is offer up suggestions with no real knowledge of whether it will work or not. 

[axel-maiden]

I downgraded the Lightroom version when the issue started and haven't been updating since. Tried to read here at the forum if the latest 13.4 version helped in this matter but if I understood correctly it didn't. So haven't dared to upgrade. Have the latest version helped any of you here who had the issue? 

[E. Wilson]

I'm also in the "wait and hope" camp. Until I see an update from Adobe that even indicates they understand what the problem is, I'm probably holding off.

[nefastefano]

I created a new catalogue, cleared the cache, set GPU usage to auto. Nothing. As soon as I start working on a picture, the memory used goes to 10 gb and lightroom slows so much it is unusable. Adobe what is going on?!?!?!