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joopsnijder
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April 1, 2011
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P: Better keyword management

  • April 1, 2011
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How about some better support for keyword management. It's very basic now. I would like to do the following tasks:- Delete multiple keywords at once. Not all plugins do handle hierarchy keywords well and add all the keywords to the root level. It's a tedious task to delete them one by one.- Search for duplicates.- Merge keywords. With lots of tricks, it can be done, but it's so inefficient.- Import keywords from within any level in the keyword hierarchy. Now you can only import keywords to the root level.- And for now last but most important: Real external editing of the keyword list. Moving keywords around and doing real heavy reorganization is difficult in LR. I would like to have an editing option like exporting and when reimported all changes are reflected in LR.

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    Louie Sherwin
    Known Participant
    May 14, 2011
    Additionally I would like to see the following improvements to the string matching for searching.

    1. The "Filter Keywords" entry should follow keyword separator preferences instead of only using "space" as a delimiter.

    2. Add some basic string matching meta-characters like, beginning of word, end of word.

    3. Add some basic boolean operations. AND, OR, NOT for example.

    I have requested all of this many moons ago with a but/feature request form.
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      Anonymous
      April 5, 2011
      I, too, would really like to see the option to put keywords in the order I want them (by relevance and priority for stock photo agents), not alphabetically as LR now forces.
        johnrellis
        johnrellis
        Legend
        April 4, 2011
        I haven't submitted a bug report. According to the FAQ, this site is intended to supersede the feedback/bug form:

        http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...
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        FeedbackCommunityMember
        Inspiring
        April 4, 2011
        I like the term "misfeature". 🙂 I agree that selecting "Delete" from the contex-menu should delete all selected keywords. Have you submitted a bug report?
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        FeedbackCommunityMember
        Inspiring
        April 4, 2011
        I like the term "misfeature". 🙂 I agree that selecting "Delete" from the contex-menu should delete all selected keywords. Have you submitted a bug report?
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        FeedbackCommunityMember
        Inspiring
        April 3, 2011
        Before Bridge added hierarchies, I had someone write a simple Java app to read and create hierarchies. It sells only occasionally now that both Bridge and Lightroom can read and create hierarchies. However, it does have more options. See attached. I think these could be added to both Lightroom and Bridge.

        For my work, I would find option NOT to arrange alphabeticalyl enormously helpful (will start a new thread, I think).


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        joopsnijderAuthor
        Participant
        April 2, 2011
        Good point Shangara. And I also want to add the ability to type in keywords case insensitive. Every typo results in a new keyword.
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        FeedbackCommunityMember
        Inspiring
        April 2, 2011
        As someone who has a stake in keywording (stock photographer) and has written a Keyword Catalog containing some 28,000 keywords, I think I can add some weight to Joop's ideas.

        I would also like to see following:

        Separate hierarchies from applied keywords (Bride does this) so that you do not have to scroll endlessly to find your hierarchies.

        Show the number of synonyms attached to a keyword (currently, you have to double-click a keyword to see whether it includes synonyms).

        Enable spell check in the Edit Keyword Tag dialog and also make it more prominent in the Keywording and Keyword List panels (I'd be surprised if everyone knows that, in Mac OS, you can check spelling).
          johnrellis
          johnrellis
          Legend
          April 2, 2011
          Regarding "Delete multiple keywords at once":

          You can do that in LR already. In the Keyword List pane, select multiple keywords with Shift-Click or Ctrl-Click. Then click the "-" button (Delete Selected Keyword Tag) to the left of "Keyword List".

          Note that if you right-click the multiple selected keywords and select Delete, you'll only delete the keyword that you right-clicked. This is inconsistent with the way that most programs work and is a design misfeature.

          I agree in general that LR's handling of keywords is weak and could be improved.
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