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P: Better keyword management

Community Beginner ,
Mar 31, 2011 Mar 31, 2011

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How about some better support for keyword management. It's very basic now. I would like to do the following tasks:- Delete multiple keywords at once. Not all plugins do handle hierarchy keywords well and add all the keywords to the root level. It's a tedious task to delete them one by one.- Search for duplicates.- Merge keywords. With lots of tricks, it can be done, but it's so inefficient.- Import keywords from within any level in the keyword hierarchy. Now you can only import keywords to the root level.- And for now last but most important: Real external editing of the keyword list. Moving keywords around and doing real heavy reorganization is difficult in LR. I would like to have an editing option like exporting and when reimported all changes are reflected in LR.

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LEGEND , Nov 09, 2022 Nov 09, 2022

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Unfortunately, there is no way to batch-edit keywords -- it's been requested many times in the past.

 

"I have used the plugin Find and replace to add some IPTC data to my keywords. I don't know why but when i exported them I say that this keywords did not appear on the exported files."

 

You can enable the Include On Export attribute for keywords created by the Search Replace Transfer

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Contributor ,
Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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Yes I noticed this as well.

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Explorer ,
Sep 24, 2013 Sep 24, 2013

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How about a complete window-size keywording panel - navigating the thin strip is quite tricky with the constant scrolling necessary.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 29, 2013 Sep 29, 2013

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good idea, especially because the font in the keyword is rather small and cant be changed afaik.

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Contributor ,
Feb 24, 2014 Feb 24, 2014

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Well it been three years since this topic was started. I'm not optimistic that any of these suggestions will see the light of day.

What to you say Adobe?

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Jul 03, 2014 Jul 03, 2014

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I wonder if there will be any changes in LR6? Probably not, as indicated by Adobe's nonresponse so far to any of these requests this seems to be a dead issue.

-louie

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LEGEND ,
Jul 03, 2014 Jul 03, 2014

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Yeah, there have been very changes to the Library since LR 3 -- Adobe's attention seems focused elsewhere, unfortunately.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 13, 2014 Dec 13, 2014

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Absolutely agree with earlier comments.

You should be able to scroll the Keyword list while still keeping the Keywording pane in view.

This is very frustrating.

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Community Beginner ,
May 06, 2015 May 06, 2015

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As discussed here https://forums.adobe.com/message/7515... I have hundreds of keywords that have somehow been defined as people when they are not. The only way to change them to "other" is a three step process for each one. Surely there should be a better way?

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Contributor ,
May 06, 2015 May 06, 2015

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Another major release and still none of these reasonable requests have been addressed. I would be overjoyed with simply the ability to search for phrases with imbedded spaces instead of "assuming" a logical OR. Come ON Adobe. All of us photographers live in the real world and have to deal with real things that have spaces in the descriptions.

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Participant ,
Aug 13, 2015 Aug 13, 2015

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Another voice to this request. Not only is keywording and keyword management in need of a major overhall as described in this request but it is totally non-existant in LR Mobile which is the task that LR Mobile is REALLY suited for.

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 14, 2015 Aug 14, 2015

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Keywording is one of the things I've been hoping would be fixed/improved with every succeeding version of Lightroom, but I guess it's just not sexy enough to attract developers' attention. (Or probably not sexy enough to attract management's attention.)

I am also absolutely dying for a keyword tool where I can set standards for all new keywords like don't export 3rd level keywords or don't export synonyms or set all new "people" keywords to not export.

Another feature on my wish list is the ability to click on a photo's keyword symbol and have a popup show up with the assigned keywords - I don't always have the keyword panel open and it would be nice to not have to scroll up or down and click the keyword panel open.

Since this topic is 4 years old I don't hold old much hope for any improvements soon, but I just had to let out my frustration since I'm in the middle of keywording 1000 pictures.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 14, 2015 Aug 14, 2015

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Don't give up, at least we got finally CMYK soft proofing (which was "technically impossible", as we were told in the years before 😉

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Community Beginner ,
Aug 19, 2015 Aug 19, 2015

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As an IT person with 50 years experience, and, a software engineering academic of some small standing, I despair about the failure to use standard IR and query techniques on Lightroom and many other systems and web pages that support key words and querying. Simple boolean expressions are easy to understand and easy to implement. Simple conjunctive searches that treat the key word string K1 K2 ...Kn as K1 AND K2 AND ...Kn and do not require one to nominate the filed that the Ki in are liberating. Someone at Melbourne Uni built a front end for bib/roff under unix that did this, and, I used it for years.
Right now, I don't seem to be able to make catalog wide searches on Lightroom 4. That is an awful pain.
Come on adobe, fix these things! Surely you can do better than the Open Source projects like Thunderbird that ignore problems?

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Community Expert ,
Aug 19, 2015 Aug 19, 2015

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Why aren't you able to make catalog wide searches? If you select the All Photographs collection and select some search criteria, what happens? (And yes I understand the available criteria is limited, but just want to check there's nothing else going wrong here.)
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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen - Author of the Lightroom Missing FAQ & Edit on the Go books.

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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over 4 years and next to nothing happend.......

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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adobes focus is on hooking people to the cloud.. making money without doing something in return.

once you are in the cloud you have to pay anyway....

and don ́t get me started with the unusable beta features we get every 6 month.

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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yeah well... get used to it.

until adobe gets real competition they will do nothing.

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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in 2015 also.... but hey you get crappy mobile support now.

i have yet to find someone who uses the mobile app for something productive.....

it ́s a PITA to use LR mobile on a tablet.

but hey adobe maybe gets some instagram user ....

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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a book feature nobody with a clue will use.

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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add LR5 and LR6...... next to nothing happend.

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Enthusiast ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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there is no reason.... adobe is just laughing at people thinking this forum has any influence on decisions made.

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Community Expert ,
Aug 27, 2015 Aug 27, 2015

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There's no need to spam the forum Tanja - that'll just get your posts deleted. This forum DOES have an influence over which features are added - from memory, the top 3 major features were all included in the latest release. If you want to get some movement on this topic, feel free to drum up extra votes among other Lightroom users.
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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen - Author of the Lightroom Missing FAQ & Edit on the Go books.

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Sep 13, 2015 Sep 13, 2015

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Keywording: Provide a way to mass change keyword attributes across multiple keywords at a time. For example, highlight several Kewords using the Shift or Ctrl keys, then right click one of them and check or uncheck one or more of the checkboxes. The ones changed will be changed in all highlighted Keywords and untouched check boxes will be left alone.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 13, 2015 Sep 13, 2015

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Yes, this would also be a great feature! Tired of having to use external tools or use lots of valuable time taking care of these basic tasks.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 13, 2015 Sep 13, 2015

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Ah.. Yes, somehow I missed that, thanks Victoria.. however, my complaint about Boolean searches still stands!

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