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December 27, 2021
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P: Font sizes in UI are small and unreadable - we need to be able to resize with greater granularity

  • December 27, 2021
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I’m writing about a problem I’ve encountered that seems to have a lot of people frustrated on the forums, but that Adobe apparently hasn’t done anything to address. This pertains to both LR Classic and PS 2002.

 

I use LR Classic CC and Photoshop 2022 on a new Macbook Pro (OS 12.1, M1 max chip), connected to an external monitor with a resolution of 2560 x 1440. The problem is that the fonts in the drop-down menus (and to a lesser extent, on the panel labels) are spidery and difficult to read, and there’s no way to adjust them or make them larger and clearer. From what I’ve read on the forums, this problem is even worse for those who have upgraded to 4K monitors.

 

The usual solution (and the only one offered by tech support) is to use the Mac’s system preferences to change the monitor display settings to a lower resolution. This isn’t a workable solution because external monitors don’t work well when they’re not at their optimal resolution. If you try to scale them to something other than the default setting, you lose sharpness. I’m a professional photographer and I can’t work on a blurry monitor.

 

In the “preferences / interface” panel of LR, there are options to make fonts larger, but these have no visible effect on drop-down menu fonts (and in fact I still don’t know what they actually adjust). Some responses on the forums suggest that people think these DO affect those fonts, but they’re mistaken. Whether the efficacy of those settings is affected by monitor resolution, I don’t know—but it shouldn’t be.

 

What's really needed—and will be even more important as people transition to 4K monitors—is the ability for the user to adjust font size and sharpness in the panels and menus without rescaling the monitor resolution. This should be well within the technical capabilities of the Adobe programming team. It could simply be part of the "preferences" panel -- an option for "Font sizes in drop-down menus" and another for "Font sizes in panel labels." It may require some collaboration between your engineers and those at Apple, but I assume there’s precedent for that.

 

With all the griping about this problem on the forums—complaints that go back years, mind you—it’s hard to understand why nothing’s been done about it. I’d appreciate it (and so would a lot of other people) if you could look into this and come up with a fix.

 

Thanks.

40 replies

Participant
December 4, 2022

Same. We don't know what % medium is, but it's too small on my UHD monitor, already set to scale the whole monitor view to 125% in Windows, which is fine for everything else that I've checked so far. Having medium (% unknown), large 150% and nothing in between in LR isn't useful enough for some (many?) of us.

At the very least, we need to be able to choose 100% font size (perhaps call it Full, Normal or even ... gasp ... 100%?).

Ideally, we could choose whatever scaling we want, but a great starting point would be some additional predefined ones (100%, 125%, etc).

Fingers crossed.

 

Known Participant
December 2, 2022

Ah yeah sorry I am in the wrong power of 2 decade. I actually know better but wrote incorrectly. But yes I have had the problem of the keyword list "overflowing" and obviously font size and high-res scaling confounds that already stupid very 20th century problem.

johnrellis
Legend
December 1, 2022

"Is there still an issue with the UI widgets having a 2^31 or 2^32 pixel height limit? As in, the maximum size of a scrolling list is limited by the number of pixels it takes up?"

 

Unfortunately still an issue:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-windows-limit-on-number-of-keywords-folders-collections-in-panel-prevents-scrolling-to-bottom/m-p/10854230

 

It's been present in Windows LR since 1.0 and I think it's highly unlikely to get fixed.

 

(Also, the limit is 2^16 ~ 64K pixels.)

 

Known Participant
December 1, 2022

Is there still an issue with the UI widgets having a 2^31 or 2^32 pixel height limit? As in, the maximum size of a scrolling list is limited by the number of pixels it takes up? 32-64k pixels is perfectly attainable in a list of keywords. Particularly if the fonts are large and/or display is high res.

Participant
November 9, 2022

Hello Adobe LRC devs,

 

Could you please build a 'custom' option to set within... 'Interface: font size scaling'  or at the very least include a 175% option. 

 

I've got an Eizo ColorEdge CS2740 ...perfect for professional photo editing & retouching. It has a 4K UHD resolution of (3840 x 2160). 

 

I set my OS to 150% scaling... but I find the default setting within LR Classic at 150% a touch too small to read while editing, but setting it to 200% is way too big. 

 

A setting in the middle - 175% or being able to set a custom value would be brilliant.

 

I'm sure I'm not alone on this idea.

 

Thanks for your consideration.

arielmartini
Known Participant
July 5, 2022

I'm in Windows 10, using the latest Lightroom Classic. When I change the Font Size in Preferences / Interface / Panels, the Small and Medium options are the same. When I change to Large 150% it increases the size but is a bit too much for my taste.

arielmartini
Known Participant
July 5, 2022

Ok I just fixed this manually by editing the "Lightroom Classic CC 7 Preferences.agprefs" setting the "AgPanel_baseFontSize" value to "scale125". Hope this is helpful to someone until Adobe fixes this in 2028.

Known Participant
August 2, 2022

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jerrygib56
Participating Frequently
April 28, 2022

I have a vision problem.  I need to increase the text size in the panels and menus.  Changing it in the Windows 11 settings does not translate into LR.

JP Hess
Inspiring
April 28, 2022

What is the resolution of the monitor? I don't believe there is a way to change the font in the menus other than what you have already tried.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 3, 2022

The ideal (but not free) solution is to get SwitchRes X (https://www.madrau.com). This utility allows you to set your monitors to a huge number of different resolutions, including lots of HiDPI settings. I have two 4K monitors connected to my 16" MacBook Pro M1 Max and I can get crisp and clear menus at any size I want.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
Community Expert
February 3, 2022

One of the problems is that Mac OS X does not do the interface scaling on 2560 x 1440 external monitors such as this that it can do on built-in displays and 4k or higher monitors. There you don't actually change the resolution but you change the interface scaling. If Mac OS X enabled this option for QHD/2560x1440 monitors and offer the "larger text" and "more space" options, this problem would be gone. There is however a hack called betterdummy (read here: https://www.macworld.com/article/549493/how-to-m1-mac-1440p-display-hidpi-retina-scaling.html ) download here: https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDummy 

Perhaps this can help you here.

Participant
December 27, 2021

Is it possible to allow fonts  to be user scalable, or at least to add a font size between Medium and 150%.  As my eyes change, I find that Medium is too small, and 150% is too large.

RR2S
Participant
November 24, 2022

I got something in between by manually editing the "Lightroom Classic CC 7 Preferences.agprefs" file in notepad and manually setting the panel font size to 125%; i.e., - setting AgPanel_baseFontSize = "scale125". It may be scalabl in smaller increments by using numbers between 100 and 125. Note that the editing needs to be done when Lightroom is not running.