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October 26, 2021
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P:(Masking) Permanently toggle off gradient overlay and permanently invert radial gradient

  • October 26, 2021
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I've installed new Lightroom version 11.0.

 

When I draw a radial gradiant, the red overlay is now on the inside of the gradient every single time. In previous versions of Lightroom, by default the changes made to the radial gradient were on the outside, or at least, Lightroom would remember the last radial gradient you drew and the next one you would draw would be either inverted or not depending on the previous one you drew. Lightroom no longer remembers the last gradient you drew. I mostly make changes to the outside of the radial gradient, so now every time I draw one I have to invert it. Or is there a way to make it behave like it did before?

 

Another irritation is the red tool overlays are now always on when you draw them. In previous versions, the tools would remember if you had the overlay turned on the last time you used it. Or you could hover your mouse over the pin to display the overlay. Is there a way to make this behave like it did in the past so that it doesn't automatically show the red overlay every single time? When it displays the overlay I can't see the changes the brush or gradient is applying. I'd rather see my settings being applied so I can tell if it's the desired effect I want. 

 

I know there are keyboard shortcuts to quickly toggle these things but now I have to do it on hundreds of images over and over. Before I didn't. So this is adding thousads of keystrokes to my workflow. 

20 replies

Bob Somrak
Legend
November 2, 2021

I was replying to this post and my clip didnt get uploaded.  It is not difficult and unnecessary and is better and still simple.

 

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB
Participant
November 2, 2021

Please clarify, otherwise your comment comes off as rude.

Bob Somrak
Legend
November 2, 2021

Wrong!!

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB
Participant
November 2, 2021

Now I have a headache. It was good and simple, now it is difficult and unnecessary. There is Photoshop for this kind of complex processing, right?

johnrellis
Legend
November 2, 2021

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography , please move this to Ideas.

johnrellis
Legend
November 2, 2021

"now every time I draw one I have to invert it. Or is there a way to make it behave like it did before?"

 

I don't think so, unfortunately.

johnrellis
Legend
November 2, 2021

"Another irritation is the red tool overlays are now always on when you draw them. In previous versions, the tools would remember if you had the overlay turned on the last time you used it."

 

With the mask tool open, uncheck the menu item Tools > Automatically Toggle Overlay.

Legend
November 1, 2021

Uncheck the Show Overlay option.

crysania4
Known Participant
November 1, 2021

I have two issues that I'm hoping there's some way to resolve:

 

1. Radial filters previously were automatically applied to what was OUTSIDE the filter. I had to check off "invert" to apply it to what was inside it. Now it's the opposite. But I cannot find a way to keep it so that every time I pull up the radial filter, it's already inverted. IS there a way to do this? In the old version of LR, if I made the change before applying a filter, it stayed that way every time. 

 

2. Along the same line...things like the radial filter, brushes, etc. automatically pulled up my latest selection. So if I used "burn" for a brush, when I pulled up the radial filter, it would come up with burn first. Now when I do that, the next comes up saying "Burn (edited)" but everything now says 0. Is there some way to make this "stick" like it used to? I often use a radial filter on each image in a group and it's becoming a huge pain to always have to select the type AND invert it.

 

I am on a Windows machine if that helps at all.

GoldingD
Legend
November 1, 2021
Radial filters previously were automatically applied to what was OUTSIDE the filter.

I disagree, mine have always been inside. Did you perhaps preload your Radial filter to invert? Not sure if you can preload in the new masks, what you used to be able to do was select the brush, and before clicking on the image, adjust sliders, they would then stick. I see some posts on how to get the new mask to stick, so perhaps now an issue.

 

Ah #2 same issue. Have not tested yet, at bottom of brush panel, an option box on automatic reset, turn that off and see if that helps

 

One thing to remember, in the previous version, preloading was a way to stick slider settings, but, after you clicked on the photo, after you placed the pin, additional moves of sliders do not stick, just the preload mods stuck.

 

 

 

 

crysania4
Known Participant
November 1, 2021

Re: #1. Mine definitely was outside the circle automatically. If anything was set up in preferences, I can't find out where. About 99% of the time I apply the filter to what is OUTSIDE the circle, so having to check off invert every single time is really irritating. 

 

And yes, I liked that it would at least come up with the original settings. So if I was using burn for a radial filter, even if I altered it after, for every photo after that, it would come up with the original burn settings and I wouldn't have to reselect it every time. It's just two extra mouse clicks for each photo (and with tendon issues, the less clicks the better!).

 

I will check and see if the reset all sliders changes anything!


Ok the reset sliders did indeed keep the sliders to whatever is originally selected!

 

Now if I can just find some way to make the radial filter come up inverted every time.

lukejc1
Inspiring
October 26, 2021

I just updated to 11 and I have to say the new masking interface will take some getting used to.  One major issue for my workflow is regarding radial filters.  In the past, when I went to apply a new radial filter to a photo the preset I used when applying the last filter would be the starting point to this new filter as well.

 

That is still the case, except for one major thing.  The invert option is always unchecked for every new radial filter created.  

 

I use radial filters to apply vignette's to my images so obviously I need the invert box to be checked.  The new interface, with it unchecking every time, really slows this process down.

 

Is there a a way for radial filters to default to be inverted?

GoldingD
Legend
October 26, 2021

Do you preload your adjustment brushes?

 

lukejc1
Inspiring
October 26, 2021

I'm not sure what you mean.  I do have a preset "effect" that I select from the dropdown menu.