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Windows 10 Pro, Current version of Lightroom CC Classic, current version of Bridge.  I’m creating a preset using a custom camera profile for Lightroom.  Yes, it's actually CREATED in ACR, but it's for use in Lightroom so the Bridge people are going to send me here...

 

To do this I created a profile by opening an image in Lightroom, doing the normal adjustments, then opening it in Photoshop.

I made the tone and color changes I wanted in Photoshop and saved the color lookup table as a .CUBE.

That all works.  I’ve got a LUT in a .CUBE file.

 

It does not appear I can create a new profile in Lightroom (if I CAN, can someone point me to how), so:

Opened Bridge, grabbed an image from the camera I want (Nikon D500), set the profile to Camera Standard (my standard profile), then clicked “Presets” and opened the New Profile popup by doing Alt/click on the icon next to the trashcan at the bottom.

Gave it a name, unclicked everything EXCEPT “Camera Profile”, which is Camera Neutral, left everything as-is, loaded the .CUBE file with the LUT, and saved it.  Worked FINE.

In ACR, I can go to the profile and the NEW profile shows up.  Works PERFECTLY.

 

Lightroom DOES NOT see it……..

 

On the OTHER hand, when in ACR, if I DON’T set the profile to ANYTHING OTHER THAN Adobe Color (I think Adobe Standard will work too) before creating the new profile, and go through exactly the same process, I get a profile Lightroom DOES see.  Except it’s NOT starting from the Camera Standard profile in ACR, so it looks crummy.

 

The ONLY difference I can SEE when I create the new Profile is that on the New Profile popup, if I use the Adobe profile to create my profile on the New Profile screen the Look Table is checked and says Adobe Color…  When I set the starting profile to Camera Neutral (or other), the Look Table is NOT checked and it wants me to load a .csv file (which, of course, I don’t have and which isn’t necessary for the profile to work in ACR).

 

So, ACR sees the created profile fine.  HOW do I get Lightroom to see the correct profile created in ACR using the settings I want?

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"Opened Bridge, grabbed an image from the camera I want (Nikon D500), set the profile to Camera Standard (my standard profile), then clicked “Presets” and opened the New Profile popup by doing Alt/click on the icon next to the trashcan at the bottom. Gave it a name, unclicked everything EXCEPT “Camera Profile”, which is Camera Neutral, left everything as-is, loaded the .CUBE file with the LUT, and saved it.  Worked FINE. In ACR, I can go to the profile and the NEW profile shows up.  Works PERFECTLY. Lightroom DOES NOT see it…….."

 

Hmm, I'm not able to reproduce that in my LR 9.2.1 / ACR 12.2.1.  Starting with a Nikon D500 sample pic assigned profile Camera Neutral, I defined a new creative profile based on Camera Neutral that includes a LUT.  That profile then shows up in the profile browser of LR.  Here's a screen recording:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qe7mrlqkjcqdvp/acr-camera-neutral-lut-profile.2020.04.19.mov?dl=0 

 

Double-check that 1) you're restarting LR after creating the profile in ACR, and 2) you're editing a photo from the same camera model in LR that was used to create the profile in ACR (e.g. Nikon D500).

 

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Windows 10 Pro, Current version of Lightroom CC Classic, current version of Bridge.  I’m creating a preset using a custom camera profile for Lightroom.  Yes, it's actually CREATED in ACR, but it's for use in Lightroom so the Bridge people are going to send me here...

 

To do this I created a profile by opening an image in Lightroom, doing the normal adjustments, then opening it in Photoshop.

I made the tone and color changes I wanted in Photoshop and saved the color lookup table as a .CUBE.

That all works.  I’ve got a LUT in a .CUBE file.

 

It does not appear I can create a new profile in Lightroom (if I CAN, can someone point me to how), so:

Opened Bridge, grabbed an image from the camera I want (Nikon D500), set the profile to Camera Standard (my standard profile), then clicked “Presets” and opened the New Profile popup by doing Alt/click on the icon next to the trashcan at the bottom.

Gave it a name, unclicked everything EXCEPT “Camera Profile”, which is Camera Neutral, left everything as-is, loaded the .CUBE file with the LUT, and saved it.  Worked FINE.

In ACR, I can go to the profile and the NEW profile shows up.  Works PERFECTLY.

 

Lightroom DOES NOT see it……..

 

On the OTHER hand, when in ACR, if I DON’T set the profile to ANYTHING OTHER THAN Adobe Color (I think Adobe Standard will work too) before creating the new profile, and go through exactly the same process, I get a profile Lightroom DOES see.  Except it’s NOT starting from the Camera Standard profile in ACR, so it looks crummy.

 

The ONLY difference I can SEE when I create the new Profile is that on the New Profile popup, if I use the Adobe profile to create my profile on the New Profile screen the Look Table is checked and says Adobe Color…  When I set the starting profile to Camera Neutral (or other), the Look Table is NOT checked and it wants me to load a .csv file (which, of course, I don’t have and which isn’t necessary for the profile to work in ACR).

 

So, ACR sees the created profile fine.  HOW do I get Lightroom to see the correct profile created in ACR using the settings I want?

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"Opened Bridge, grabbed an image from the camera I want (Nikon D500), set the profile to Camera Standard (my standard profile), then clicked “Presets” and opened the New Profile popup by doing Alt/click on the icon next to the trashcan at the bottom. Gave it a name, unclicked everything EXCEPT “Camera Profile”, which is Camera Neutral, left everything as-is, loaded the .CUBE file with the LUT, and saved it.  Worked FINE. In ACR, I can go to the profile and the NEW profile shows up.  Works PERFECTLY. Lightroom DOES NOT see it…….."

 

Hmm, I'm not able to reproduce that in my LR 9.2.1 / ACR 12.2.1.  Starting with a Nikon D500 sample pic assigned profile Camera Neutral, I defined a new creative profile based on Camera Neutral that includes a LUT.  That profile then shows up in the profile browser of LR.  Here's a screen recording:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qe7mrlqkjcqdvp/acr-camera-neutral-lut-profile.2020.04.19.mov?dl=0 

 

Double-check that 1) you're restarting LR after creating the profile in ACR, and 2) you're editing a photo from the same camera model in LR that was used to create the profile in ACR (e.g. Nikon D500).

 

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"Opened Bridge, grabbed an image from the camera I want (Nikon D500), set the profile to Camera Standard (my standard profile), then clicked “Presets” and opened the New Profile popup by doing Alt/click on the icon next to the trashcan at the bottom. Gave it a name, unclicked everything EXCEPT “Camera Profile”, which is Camera Neutral, left everything as-is, loaded the .CUBE file with the LUT, and saved it.  Worked FINE. In ACR, I can go to the profile and the NEW profile shows up.  Works PERFECTLY. Lightroom DOES NOT see it…….."

 

Hmm, I'm not able to reproduce that in my LR 9.2.1 / ACR 12.2.1.  Starting with a Nikon D500 sample pic assigned profile Camera Neutral, I defined a new creative profile based on Camera Neutral that includes a LUT.  That profile then shows up in the profile browser of LR.  Here's a screen recording:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qe7mrlqkjcqdvp/acr-camera-neutral-lut-profile.2020.04.19.mov?dl=0 

 

Double-check that 1) you're restarting LR after creating the profile in ACR, and 2) you're editing a photo from the same camera model in LR that was used to create the profile in ACR (e.g. Nikon D500).

 

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AHA!  I don't recall what I used to make the LUT originally (it was several days ago, but it MAY have been an image from the D850), so I opened a D500 image in Bridge, adjusted, set the profile to Camera Standard, sent it to PS, dragged the adjustment layers onto it, exported and got a new .CUBE

Went BACK to Bridge, used the SAME image, created the profile, exited, went back in and the new profile was there in ACR.

Opened Lightroom, opened the SAME RAW file in Lightroom (so everybody all the way through the process was the same camera and the same file, and the profile is there....

Stayed in Lightroom, grabbed a D850 image, went to Develop, and the profile is NOT there.  I DON'T have the LR Preferences set to be camera specific for presets, and I didn't think about the profile being mfr and model specific.  Doh!

Thanks for the quick fix!

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Right, the profile was based on Camera Neutral, which is specific to each particular camera model, and LR only shows you profiles that match the particular model.


But when you made a profile based on Adobe Color or Adobe Standard, it shows up for every photo, since Adobe Color / Standard are available for every camera.

 

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Yes, once you added the missing bit of info I realized that, of course, a created profile would be specific since the starting profile is specific.  Since we're all under house arrest these days I've been digging into learning how to make more use of some of the lesser-known things in Lightroom classic.  I'm finding little nuggets that'll make my image otpimization better and faster...

Thanks again.

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I just figured out I have a follow-on issue........  I now have a camera model specific profile for the D500 and one for the D850.  They work fine.  They show up for images from the assigned camera.  I have put them in presets so I have ISO-specific presets for each camera - makes it much quicker if you shoot at different ISOs.

BUT, when I go into Preferences to set a default preset at import for each camera, I can't see the preset that has the profile I created.  I can see the user profiles that use camera standard or camera neutral.  I can assign those to Lightroom in the preferences.  But not the ones with the custom profile.

I took one of the existing presets that used camera standard and updated the preset using the D500 profile I created, and it disappeared from the list of user presets available for assigning as the default import profile for the D500...

Same thing happened when I tried the D850...

So I can create the profile, I can create the preset, I can use the preset on as many images as I'd like (as far as I can tell), but I CAN'T assign the preset in preferences to be a camera-model-specific default import preset.  I don't SEE anything in the Lightroom information that says I CAN'T do this, but it appears I can't.

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