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Lightroom-Classic is the app that runs on a PC or Mac and stores your imported files on a local drive (incl. NAS). It does not run on Mobile devices.
On an iPad (Mobile devices) only Lightroom (Cloud centric version) is available.
So to use both apps you need the Photography Plan which only has 20GB of storage (unless you pay for 1TB extra). Importing your camera photos to the iPad, so as to "view" them, will fill your 20GB storage very fast if you shoot professionally. That is a limitation that requires careful management (and deletion) of files in the Lightroom Cloud.
Also consider Lightroom on the iPad does not have a "tether" function (if you mean immediate camera to iPad). You can however "Import" the image files to the Lightroom catalog on the iPad.
Your Cloud photos can also be automatically 'synced' down to Lightroom-Classic and stored in a folder nominated in the Preferences.
after a new research, I will try cascable for tethering and Lightroom Classic for editing and organizing my images…
By @Markus Kleine
Sounds good, because no Adobe app on mobile does tethered shooting as far as I know. If I do wireless tethering with iPhone/iPad, it’s either with Cascable or the camera manufacturer’s app.
Regarding the desktop apps, in case it helps your final decision:
If you also want to do tethered shooting on the desktop, and manage originals locally with the help of the organizational features in a catalog, and you want to print, then use Lightroom Classic.
If you don’t need tethered shooting on the desktop, and want to upload all originals to the cloud and manage them there, then use Lightroom. Lightroom does have a new Local tab for browsing and editing originals in local folders, storing edits in XMP sidecar files, and that will work about as well as using Camera Raw, so maybe you’d be happy with that. But keep in mind that Lightroom Local mode cannot take advantage of many features in Lightroom that are cloud-managed, such as version control and virtual organization (albums).
if we are one a photoshooting outside and want to check, if the images are really sharp, we just dont want to check it on a zoomed in camera-display but on our iPad Pro.
By @Markus Kleine
If you are using Cascable, you can review each captured image in the app. Captured images are stored to the apps’s own private storage on iPad by default. You can define other storage locations and have Cascable automatically copy photos there, using its Storage Link feature. For example, you can have Cascable use Storage Link to copy captured images to an external SSD connected to the iPad USB-C port. Later, you connect that SSD to a Mac or PC, and copy the images to your NAS. Then have Lightroom Classic import the new images at the NAS without moving them (using the Import/Add or Synchronize options). The catalog remembers the images at that path. You might need to test all of that, but I think it would work.
Lightroom Classic can catalog images on an NAS, but the catalog itself cannot be stored on an NAS, only on DAS (direct attached storage) or internal volumes.
Important note: Lightroom on iOS has a new Device tab, but unfortunately it doesn’t work as well as the Local tab in desktop Lightroom. It can browse only the device photo library; it cannot browse photos in a folder in the iOS Files app (I wish it could), which is the iOS equivalent of a computer desktop folder hierarchy. For this reason, I do not think it’s practical to use Lightroom on iOS to do quick review of images captured by tethered shooting on that device, because it will try to upload them to Lightroom Photos in the Adobe cloud.
But your hint concerning the DAS unsettles me a little bit. Sure, my computer hast got a DAS, but I dont do safety-copies of my mac and the same for my sisters mac. We just work on the NAS, which surely has got safety-copies. And what is, if I sell the computer? Than I have to remind those annoying catalog-files from Lightroom classic? Is this what Adobe thinks is an appropriate usage!?? Sounds bit strange 2 me…
By @Markus Kleine
Or is this fact just the exclusion for LightroomClassic and I should use Lightroom?
When you sell the computer, if it’s a Mac, then the standard procedure is to use Apple Migration Assistant to easily transfer all of your account information and data to the new Mac. This is very easy and works well, and it means when you start the new Mac, it works as your old Mac did, with the data in the same place. A Lightroom Classic catalog folder on internal storage would naturally be included, and just go along for the ride with everything else. No extra work. If you store the catalog folder on DAS, then the only change is that you now connect the DAS to the new Mac, and everything is there.
The reason Apple provides Migration Assistant is the issue of storage on computer is not unique to Lightroom Classic. For many apps, a lot of your data must be on the computer and it’s difficult to make some of them work with external storage. For example, if the Apple Photos or Apple Music content is too large for Mac internal storage, there is a way to store their content on external storage, but it causes complications. But also, any of your system and account settings are on that Mac, so there needs to be an easy way to transfer them to a newer Mac, and Migration Assistant is that way.
If you wanted to sell the Mac first, then you could make an Apple Time Machine backup of it, sell the Mac, buy the new Mac, and then have Migration Assistant set up the new Mac from the Time Machine backup. If the Lightroom Classic catalog was on internal storage and therefore included in the backup, it will be there in the backup and migrated to the new Mac.
By @Markus KleineOr is this fact just the exclusion for LightroomClassic and I should use Lightroom?
It depends on what you do with those shoots:
Lightroom Classic will catalog images, store edits in the catalog, and build previews, you can store the original photos on internal storage, external DAS, or external NAS storage, and store the catalog on internal storage or external DAS.
Lightroom was originally only cloud-based, but recently added local edit capability, so it now has two modes now, Local and Cloud. Any images imported in Cloud mode are uploaded with edits also stored in the cloud, and those cloud originals are completely unconnected from your local file system, so in Cloud mode the NAS cannot be involved. So if you were to use Lightroom, you would use Local mode, which is a local file browser similar to Adobe Bridge + Adobe Camera Raw: There is no catalog, edits are stored in sidecar XMP files, and the only organization is the local folder hierarchy. In theory you could use Local mode to browse the NAS and edit images there. But Lightroom currently lacks many of the features in Lightroom Classic and Bridge/Camera Raw, such as advanced metadata filtering, advanced settings copy/paste, and advanced batch exporting. And some Lightroom features work only for cloud-synced images, not local. So you might prefer Lightroom Classic (or Bridge + Camera Raw if you really don’t need many of the cataloging features).
Right now, my thoughts are, that I only want to check, if the photos me or my sister has shooten in the studio are sharp. So I leave them on my camera sd-card and copy them after shooting onto my NAS.
By @Markus Kleine
For that workflow, I think you might simply use the image review built into Cascable. It can be set to automatic, so that the review window appears immediately after each shot.
But your hint concerning the DAS unsettles me a little bit. Sure, my computer hast got a DAS, but I dont do safety-copies of my mac and the same for my sisters mac. We just work on the NAS, which surely has got safety-copies. And what is, if I sell the computer? Than I have to remind those annoying catalog-files from Lightroom classic? Is this what Adobe thinks is an appropriate usage!?? Sounds bit strange 2 me…
By @Markus Kleine
Or is this fact just the exclusion for LightroomClassic and I should use Lightroom?
When you sell the computer, if it’s a Mac, then the standard procedure is to use Apple Migration Assistant to easily transfer all of your account information and data to the new Mac. This is very easy and works well, and it means when you start the new Mac, it works as your old Mac did, with the data in the same place. A Lightroom Classic catalog folder on internal storage would naturally be included, and just go along for the ride with everything else. No extra work. If you store the catalog folder on DAS, then the only change is that you now connect the DAS to the new Mac, and everything is there.
The reason Apple provides Migration Assistant is the issue of storage on computer is not unique to Lightroom Classic. For many apps, a lot of your data must be on the computer and it’s difficult to make some of them work with external storage. For example, if the Apple Photos or Apple Music content is too large for Mac internal storage, there is a way to store their content on external storage, but it causes complications. But also, any of your system and account settings are on that Mac, so there needs to be an easy way to transfer them to a newer Mac, and Migration Assistant is that way.
If you wanted to sell the Mac first, then you could make an Apple Time Machine backup of it, sell the Mac, buy the new Mac, and then have Migration Assistant set up the new Mac from the Time Machine backup. If the Lightroom Classic catalog was on internal storage and therefore included in the backup, it will be there in the backup and migrated to the new Mac.
By @Markus Kleine
It depends on what you do with those shoots:
Lightroom Classic will catalog images, store edits in the catalog, and build previews, you can store the original photos on internal storage, external DAS, or external NAS storage, and store the catalog on internal storage or external DAS.
Lightroom was originally only cloud-based, but recently added local edit capability, so it now has two modes now, Local and Cloud. Any images imported in Cloud mode are uploaded with edits also stored in the cloud, and those cloud originals are completely unconnected from your local file system, so in Cloud mode the NAS cannot be involved. So if you were to use Lightroom, you would use Local mode, which is a local file browser similar to Adobe Bridge + Adobe Camera Raw: There is no catalog, edits are stored in sidecar XMP files, and the only organization is the local folder hierarchy. In theory you could use Local mode to browse the NAS and edit images there. But Lightroom currently lacks many of the features in Lightroom Classic and Bridge/Camera Raw, such as advanced metadata filtering, advanced settings copy/paste, and advanced batch exporting. And some Lightroom features work only for cloud-synced images, not local. So you might prefer Lightroom Classic (or Bridge + Camera Raw if you really don’t need many of the cataloging features).
Right now, my thoughts are, that I only want to check, if the photos me or my sister has shooten in the studio are sharp. So I leave them on my camera sd-card and copy them after shooting onto my NAS.
By @Markus Kleine
For that workflow, I think you might simply use the image review built into Cascable. It can be set to automatic, so that the review window appears immediately after each shot.
By @Conrad_C
yes - I will exactly work this way…
Lightroom was originally only cloud-based, but recently added local edit capability, so it now has two modes now, Local and Cloud. Any images imported in Cloud mode are uploaded with edits also stored in the cloud, and those cloud originals are completely unconnected from your local file system, so in Cloud mode the NAS cannot be involved. So if you were to use Lightroom, you would use Local mode, which is a local file browser similar to Adobe Bridge + Adobe Camera Raw: There is no catalog, edits are stored in sidecar XMP files, and the only organization is the local folder hierarchy. In theory you could use Local mode to browse the NAS and edit images there. But Lightroom currently lacks many of the features in Lightroom Classic and Bridge/Camera Raw, such as advanced metadata filtering, advanced settings copy/paste, and advanced batch exporting. And some Lightroom features work only for cloud-synced images, not local. So you might prefer Lightroom Classic (or Bridge + Camera Raw if you really don’t need many of the cataloging features).
I really would like to try Lightroom and use new presets and many other new advantages. Maybe I don´t think to open minded for this new programm and/or maybe I just dont get through the whole system. But what is, if my sister also wants to work on those images I have downloaded to our NAS - in my understanding she doesn´t has access to the catalog I have created, because it is on the HD of my computer, not!??
By @Markus Kleine
If your primary interest is in the latest presets and features, while preserving multi-user local NAS access to both photos and the edits to those photos, then actually it sounds like you should stay with the latest versions of Bridge and Camera Raw. Adobe keeps Camera Raw and Lightroom at feature parity most of the time, they usually get new features simultaneously, so you are not missing out. Camera Raw keeps edits in the same folder as the image, so whoever opens the file there sees the previous edits.
But the Lightroom Classic catalog cannot be stored on the NAS.
The features you are missing by using Bridge and Camera Raw instead of Lightroom Classic are mostly organizational. For image edits, the main feature missing in Camera Raw is that Lightroom Classic keeps full edit history across sessions so you can roll back to any step all the way to the beginning.
Some of the reasons I like working in Lightroom Classic are the Secondary Display window, where I can keep Grid and Survey views for immediate access and reference, much better metadata handling, and being able to print without changing applications. But it doesn’t seem worth it to lose multi-user NAS access to get those features.
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