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This post applies to the Project Indigo iOS camera app.
Adobe Labs is excited to share an early look at Project Indigo, an iPhone camera app we've started to develop, to get feedback from the photography community. The app offers full manual controls, a more natural ("SLR-like") look, and high image quality in both JPEG and raw formats. It also introduces some new photographic experiences not available in other camera apps. For more information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Project Indigo blog post.
Before you start with Project Indigo
Recipes for success when using Project Indigo
To get the maximum out of your images captured with the app, follow these guidelines:
Sending feedback
Please try the app and share feedback in this community forum thread. If you report a problem you encountered, it would help to include details like which device you are running Project Indigo on, what kind of scene you were trying to capture, what you were trying to achieve with the camera, and as much information as possible about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues and improve future experiences.
To improve the performance and results of Project Indigo, it is important that examples of images that do not meet your expectations are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on the Project Indigo camera!
Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, NextCam
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@BorisTheBlade these samples behaves similar to the 10x SR I showed before while I was shopping at Costco, it was bright indoors condition then vs the night time condition here. Although digital zoom should not be stacking the same algorithm as the SR so it might be a completely different issue? At the mentioned ss 1/800s and high iso, unless the luma levels programmed into Indigo trips wrongly into reducing noise and blurs the face weirdly, that ss should be fast enough to not have motion blur issues for the faces. The high iso and high shutter speed should just have evenly fine grains right, like if you would take on dslr albeit it's 1 frame?
Is it possible to have Indigo to also have a one frame in both jpeg and raw option in the manual section to eliminate any of this motion issue, similar to how Halide does their Process Zero?
By @nhan_8084
One can always choose to capture a single frame in Pro Controls. In some situations that can really show just how bad these small sensors can be, especially in low light. It's not a coincidence that Halide recommends their "Process Zero" for well illuminated scenes - that is because in low light it would just mostly look poor. Having said that, we will be working on ways to make scenes like this better, or at least finding ways to give easier control to the user to pick how they want their images processed. This will likely require a lot of UX experimentation on our side so it may take us some time to ship something we are happy with.
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Ok, great I will keep in mind to select 1 frame in the pro controls. The tele and uwa has improved quite a bit, eventhough it is still smaller when looking at the competitors on the China side of phones having a 1/1.4" or a decent 1/2" periscope vs the 1/2.55" on apple devices.
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It looks like the forum's built-in preview only loads the SDR base, but if you download the JPGs, the HDR gainmaps are embedded.
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It looks like the forum's built-in preview only loads the SDR base, but if you download the JPGs, the HDR gainmaps are embedded.
By @nnhuy
Thank you for sharing these examples. It is on our radar to improve the SDR look (we have focused more on HDR as that is the default experience), and I will pass this information along to the team to consider when doing so.
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I think the SDR base's color saturation should more closely match the HDR grade's saturation. Attached are two photos I took where the SDR desaturation (or rather, saturation difference) felt egregious. Look at the sky and the brown-red buildings in each.
By @nnhuy
Can you elaborate how exactly these photos were made and saved on your computer before you shared them on the forum? Did you do any work in Camera Raw Lightroom to import/export them?
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Can you elaborate how exactly these photos were made and saved on your computer before you shared them on the forum? Did you do any work in Camera Raw Lightroom to import/export them?
By @BorisTheBlade
No work in Lightroom. The JPGs were obtained either via Airdrop (with "All Photo Data" activated under the Options submenu before airdropping) unto Mac or via a personal app I have to duplicate the representation .jpg/.heif from RAW/ProRAW assets on iOS (via NSItemProvider loadFileRepresentation). I freely use both, so I don't recall which method was done here.
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Can you elaborate how exactly these photos were made and saved on your computer before you shared them on the forum? Did you do any work in Camera Raw Lightroom to import/export them?
By @BorisTheBladeNo work in Lightroom. The JPGs were obtained either via Airdrop (with "All Photo Data" activated under the Options submenu before airdropping) unto Mac or via a personal app I have to duplicate the representation .jpg/.heif from RAW/ProRAW assets on iOS (via NSItemProvider loadFileRepresentation). I freely use both, so I don't recall which method was done here.
By @nnhuy
Thanks. The metadata is stripped from the files so we cannot inspect them properly. I would recommend to use AirDrop and share the images again. This forum may also strip JPEG metadata, in which case uploading them to a file sharing service may be the only way to get the correct files over to us for triage.
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JPEG photos synced by Microsoft OneDrive are given the file extension .heic. The data in the files are still the same and doing a checksum comparison with the same photos synced by iCloud confirms this.
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JPEG photos synced by Microsoft OneDrive are given the file extension .heic. The data in the files are still the same and doing a checksum comparison with the same photos synced by iCloud confirms this.
By @chubby_puppy
Thank you for sharing. That is some OneDrive weirdness... we'll try it out but it would be on Microsoft to fix this issue.
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