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May 23, 2023

P: Generated images violate user guidelines

 

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Known Participant
August 10, 2023

Do they not think they're the best image 'creation' software anyway? If not then who is? I'm not saying they are the best for creation, but I'm interested who is - because I've heard of most, and not many else spring to mind - so I'm wondering what I'm missing (not that you're probably allowed to mention it here).

I also said Adobe, not Photoshop - Illustrator is more a 'creation' tool, and I'm talking about Adobe overall, not just PS.

Known Participant
August 10, 2023

But Adobe shouldn't be using Urban Dictionary to decide it's list of forbidden words, or there'll be no words left. Why can't people create almost (as in, no child-prn or images involving defaming real people) anything they like? You can't use these for commercial purposes anyway. The only problem is the furore the main-stream media might throw at Adobe if their software is used to make certain images - but why can't a company stand up for once and say something like 'we provide software for people to use, what they do with it is up to them' and leave it at that. No one blames a car company if their car gets used to mow people down, a phone company if their phone is used to commit a serious crime, or Windows if their software was on the PC someone used in a hack.

c.pfaffenbichler
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Community Expert
August 10, 2023
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Adobe has to up their game if they think they are the premiere image creation software.

Image editing software. 

Known Participant
August 10, 2023

I tried generating a woman from scratch using the Firefly web app version to creat a character from a game - and yes, hideous is an apt description. Even when I put 'attractive' or 'beautiful' it didn't get much better. I know looks are subjective, but looking like they were created by Dr. Frankenstein, and then hit by the back of a bus, and then the hospital they were recovering in collapsed in an earthquake... 

Considering the results I've seen people make using other products, where the results were like photos and incredibly good looking women (with usually only the hands an issue occasionally) Adobe has to up their game if they think they are the premiere image creation software.

Graham24508943nobd
Known Participant
August 10, 2023

That's putting it mildly, I've had loads of women in my generations, shame they were ALL hideous

 

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Known Participant
August 10, 2023

I wouldn't say they are any way near 'developed', but yeah it's a bit dodgy.

Known Participant
August 10, 2023

The word 'kinks' should make your post blocked!

Joking of course.

But really Adobe, I was trying out generative fill with the lizard pic you provided, decided to add a jet fighter plane for it to be looking at and asked the prompt to add 'jet thrusts' and it blocked it because of a 'violation'! For the word 'thrusts'! I mean, I know it could be used in a sexual context but really! If your AI was smart enough it could tell it was being attached to the back of a plane - or even the fact the word 'jet' proceeded it.

Also, while I'm here, before I decided on a jet I was asking for a dragonfly, then asking it to be 'looking left', 'facing left', 'flying left' and no matter what I typed only about 10% of results had the thing facing left. Is your AI not smart enough to know left from right? Or if it's me, then it's not intuitive enough. It'd be good to have a 'flip' button on the Generative tool bar that flips the image easily - horizontally or vertically.

Also, why are the images not cutout by default? The new layer creates an area of opaque pixels that copy from the background, but if I change background I've then got to spend time cutting it out.

What you claim is going to be quick and save time, ends up in reality being us spending as much time trying many different prompts, with most results being unuseable or blocked, then having to tidy up/ cut out the result. I'd be better off sourcing my own jet or dragon fly than the monstrosities that get created.

I'm just getting tired of all the time Adobe claim their new feature is the best thing ever and works flawlessly and it clearly doesn't.

Graham24508943nobd
Known Participant
August 10, 2023

I'd a look at stable diffusion and some of the human generations were worse than Adobes.

Participant
August 10, 2023

Out of interest which alternative generative AI systems are you looking at?

Graham24508943nobd
Known Participant
August 9, 2023

NOW THAT's not on, somebodys' head needs to roll for this