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May 23, 2023

P: Generated images violate user guidelines

 

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Known Participant
August 10, 2023

Why would they do that? They're already featuring obese women as the epitome of fitness - to represent "real women", so that's the only reason I don't see them featuring 'unreal' women any time soon. But if they weren't heading in the woke direction they could easily fill an issue 1000s of times over with AI generated attractive women. Search youtube for 'AI cosplay' for examples.

I've also heard recently about AI models getting large followings on instagram or similar without people knowing they're AI, and they're making their creators a lot of money - that's at least one area where a creator is benefitting from AI - but give it a while when all people are able to create these pics themselves and why would they be following fake people on instagram?

Just some other examples of AI advancement: a guy on Youtube called Bradley Hall has a video called 'I Made An Entire MEGADETH Album In Just 1 DAY' where he live streamed it's creation and asked his audience for song subject matter and typed those ideas into an AI text generator and it generated lyrics for whole songs, in minutes, if not seconds, in the style of Megadeth/Dave Mustaine. He created the music for it, but AI has also done that too.

There's a youtuber called TmarTn2 with a few videos of a tech demo set in New York where the player can walk up to NPCs and speak through their headset's mic to talk to them, ask questions, etc. and the NPCs respond with AI generated thoughts and can hold full conversations.

You can just ask AI chat to write a poem based off this or that subject. Or ask it to write code for a programme. Or even generate cartoons based off text or a few source materials. There's software that you can enter a short recording of someone's voice then type whatever you want and it generates audio with their voice. I've heard of sites or software with AI generated girlfriends - I don't know to what level of convincing they are, but again, in the not too distant future, put on a VR headset and live in a virtual world with your virtual partner, doing whatever you want and no-one's getting hurt (except the user if they get too carried away - I mean both physically and mentally)

AI is advancing quicker and to an impressive level much more than what Adobe's results are suggesting. That's maybe why I was expecting better from Adobe, but also why I feel pessimistic about our futures and being surplus to requirements in not too long.

Graham24508943nobd
Known Participant
August 10, 2023

 This took me 5 minutes just now, I simply added the boats, church, waterfall & wildlife, pretty spectacular I'd say

 

daniellei4510
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Community Expert
August 10, 2023

You have some good points but let's face it: it will be a long time coming before we see an AI version of Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Edition. 🙂

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Known Participant
August 10, 2023

But, when it's as easy as it seems it's going to be in the future, judging by the speed of advancement already, I don't share your optimism. Have you tried Bing AI Chat's text to image? You can get 4 results within about 10 seconds, and then ask for modifications and it keeps producing. Yes, the results are far from perfect, but the speed at which they're produced is impressive. Once the results are more realistic and convincing, why would the next David Bowie pay some artist to produce the next Diamond Dogs album cover when they could just type it in a prompt and there it is - I mean it's a shame hardly anyone cares about album covers these days as consumers download the digital song anyway and most don't care about the package like I do. 

AI will be great for consumers, not so great for creators in my opinion.

daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 10, 2023

"When the average Joe can just type in what they want into a free, quick bit of software with perfect, realistic results (coming within the next few years at longest, judging from the speed of advancement so far) why would we be needed and/or paid to do what we do?"

For the same reason people still hire other people to design their websites, even with the slew of easy-to-use web design applications that are available online. They just don't want to deal with it themselves when they have other things to concern themselves with. Things will all pan out in the end. Models will still find jobs and photographers will still find work. 

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Known Participant
August 10, 2023

Your image looks like the teenage version of my 30ish year old one. Maybe it's because it's lower res, but yours loses some of the flaws that give the face a bit of character, so I think the original looks more realistic.

I went from critizing Firely/Adobe quite heavily, to now defending my original image.

Maybe I'm just expecting great results a lot quicker with the user having to do far less to achieve it.

As someone who's been using PS for over 20 years and spending a lot of time learning as much as I could about it, some of the AI images I've seen in the past 6 months make me worried our time as image manipulator/creators is limited. Having these new advancements not work amazingly extends our stay, but for how much longer? When the average Joe can just type in what they want into a free, quick bit of software with perfect, realistic results (coming within the next few years at longest, judging from the speed of advancement so far) why would we be needed and/or paid to do what we do?

daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 10, 2023

Even the best results when it comes to creating photo realistic images in any AI application requires running the results through facial restoration software. Even then, the ear would need some additional work or hidden under cloned hair or content aware fill.

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Known Participant
August 10, 2023

They're not too bad, the first one's the nicest (imo). But you can tell they're not real once zoomed in slightly if there was any doubt. I've only used the Firely web app for people creation, so I'll give PS Beta a go, but the results for Firefly were like settling on the best of the bad bunch and then selecting different facial features and trying other prompts to see if something better turned up. In fairness, looking again now, the result is convincing, but it took maybe hours to get there. 

Known Participant
August 10, 2023

Had the same trouble working with pictures including womens in swimsuits.

Even if I just try to extend the background, without text prompt like legs etc...

Graham24508943nobd
Known Participant
August 10, 2023

 Here's a few of the women I've created with relative ease. Other times it takes dozens of attempts to get a nice face. Try placing an object in front of a persons hands OR, crop the image so's the hands aren't in view