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Charismatic_yogiB82A
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May 9, 2012

P: CS6 Slow compared to CS5.1 with large files

  • May 9, 2012
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PS CS6 has a lot of enhancements and great features. it launches very fast, and the control is very responsive and smooth.

although i am experiencing some speed issues with very large files. compared to CS5.1, where i don't have any of these issues.

the files are PSBs, 9000x8000px, 80+layers, RGB, 8bit

i have the same performance settings for both, cs6 and cs5
i am working on MAC PRO, 16GB ram, SSD scratch, 2TB raid, Radeon HD 5770, Snow Leopard.

the main issues i have are:

- no refresh when i move the curve on adjustment layer. the refresh comes after i let go.
- jagged pan
- extremely slow moving of layers and layer groups, even if they are with smaller dimensions (800x400pix)

again, working with files with less layers or smaller dimensions is very fast.

thanks for your help and support!
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    AlexFedorov
    Participating Frequently
    June 11, 2012
    It's got to be related to Layers. And again, I keep saying this...

    "Mac Book was 2 days old with only CS6 and basic Mac OS Lion apps installed - no configurations done, no Norton" but yet I've been noticing the issue since the first use.

    And why would turning off Layer Thumbnail Previews help the issue if it's a system problem and not related to Photoshop?

    I think the issue here is that the "majority of users" who are not reporting issues like this are the ones that are using Photoshop for small tasks and not creating files with 50+ layers that have large canvas sizes.
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    netnothing
    Participating Frequently
    June 11, 2012
    So after looking at this thread I see both Windows and Mac cases, as well as both NVIDIA and ATI.

    So how is this not a Photoshop problem?

    And how is it that when I select the Channels tab...the problem goes away?

    -Kevin
    Charismatic_yogiB82A
    Charismatic_yogiB82AAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 11, 2012
    excuse me, but i am reproducing the problem each time i try to use CS6?!:)
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    June 11, 2012
    It is not clear that this is a Photoshop problem - we've already found several external causes of slowdowns. We know of a few things in Photoshop that have slowed down, but they're very limited (like dragging many layers), not across the entire app.
    That's why we're investigating (following up with users who can reproduce the problem, and factoring out all the known causes, then isolating the real issues).
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    netnothing
    Participating Frequently
    June 11, 2012
    Small percentage or not......I UPGRADED to a product that clearly has a bug and is causing worse performance.

    Adobe has provided a few workarounds (thanks).....and clearly this has to help diagnose the issue.....now I'm hoping they don't let this issue lag.

    And BTW....I experience this on my Mac Pro 2010 with the ATI 5780.....while my files have a lot of layers.....they aren't huge in file size (190 MB) or dimensions.

    -Kevin
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    June 11, 2012
    We are investigating - but there are known causes of slowdowns (ATI drivers, Norton, etc.) to factor out.
    And it really is a small percentage of users seeing such a slowdown - so, yes, the problem is most likely something local on your system (another app, utility, driver, etc.).
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    AlexFedorov
    Participating Frequently
    June 11, 2012
    So now that many users who are experiencing this issue have posted their System Information, what happens next? Does Adobe acknowledge that many power users who are working with large files are experiencing this issue or should we just continue to believe that it's somehow related to how our systems are configured? I Googled around earlier this afternoon and found a few other threads and reviews that mirror the exact sentiment from this forum.

    Are there at least plans to test and examine the issue in an attempt to remedy the issue?
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    kaeroro
    Participating Frequently
    June 8, 2012

    Same problem here. Maybe not as bad as some others but I do notice cs6 being slower with large files. Its usable but i wish it was a bit more responsive. Unfortunaly I'm always working on images between 3-6g in size...

    I especially notice it with the Transform tool. Nudging and trasforming is slow in general

    Also as someone else mentioned. When i do colour adjustments I cannot see the adjustments realtime. It's not until i let go the arrow that it refreshes the colour. Before in Cs4 if i moved the arrow on the slider it would show me the adjustments realtime.

    My photoshop system info

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    netnothing
    Participating Frequently
    June 7, 2012
    Seeing similar issues here with CS6 and large fiels with lots of layers.

    Turning off thumbnails or switching to the Channels palette help responsiveness....but overall it seems a bit more sluggish than CS5 did.

    -Kevin
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    June 1, 2012
    I'm having the same problem moving large layer groups. My current file size is only 12.8 MB, but I'm still having problems.

    It seems to run even slower on a non-SSD.

    Probably no corelation, but I've also noticed that the Document Size information (example: Doc: 4.81M/1.58G) is way up on CS6 (here's a comparison: http://cl.ly/2X3C3A1C0q1a45230z1a).

    My colleagues and I are not sure if we should do the update or stick to CS5.
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