P: Move tool won't select after scaling image

[NerveBag]

I can't find anyone else online mentioning this so either no one else does this, or I'm the only one on the planet with the bug (on two separate computers). It only started after version 22.x. I still use 22 at work and refuse to upgrade because I run into this bug so often. I use the latest version when I work from home as a "test" to see if this will somehow get fixed. It's still there two years later. Ugh.

Here's the scenario: I have my move tool selected and use CTRL T to scale a layer. Sometimes the layer is too big for me to see the handles, so I click on the aspect ratio link (arrow) and then drag the W (circle) to the left to scale the image down to where I can see the handles. 

I let go of the mouse button when the image is at the scale I desire, and then I click on the image to move it to the proper location -- but the move tool NEVER works on the first click after scaling this way. It simply does not register as a click the first time. I have to click AGAIN on the image to move it. I have to click twice to move an image after I scale it with the vert/horz scale controls.

It doesn't do this on either version if I use the handles to scale. And it doesn't do this on my 22.x version at work even when I DO use the aspect ratio controls (I had to downgrade my version at work because this was driving me crazy).

I know it sounds trivial, but it's maddening when it happens dozens of times a day.

Anyone have any idea why this started in version 23 (and continues in 24)?

Thanks!

[CShubert]

Hi @NerveBag sorry you have this issue.

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.  

Thank you,

Cory

[NerveBag]

Sure thing! Here you go! I wasn't sure if I needed to redact any of this (serial number, etc.).

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Save for Web 24.1 - from the file “Save for Web.8be”
ScriptingSupport 24.1 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li”
Shear 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Skewness 24.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Smart Blur 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Smudge Stick 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Solarize 24.1 - from the file “Solarize.8bf”
SP Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialSuite.8li”
Spatter 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Spherize 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Sponge 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Sprayed Strokes 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stained Glass 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stamp 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Standard Deviation 24.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Substance NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf”
Sumi-e 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Summation 24.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Targa 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Texturizer 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Tiles 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Torn Edges 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Twirl 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
U3D 24.1 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Underpainting 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Vanishing Point 24.1 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”
Variance 24.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Water Paper 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Watercolor 24.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Wave 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
WIA Support 24.1 - from the file “WIASupport.8li”
Wind 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Wireless Bitmap 24.1 - from the file “WBMP.8bi”
ZigZag 24.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plugins: NONE

Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE

Plugins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

Home Screen (Loaded) 6.4.0.31 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-6.4.0\"
CDO: 1.132.5
CmdN: 1.16.0
CDP: 1.156.4
Projects: 1.7.0
Loaded at: 88 ms - launch time impact: 22 ms
ccx-timeline (Prepared) 3.1.4.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 26.0.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 8351 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 24.0.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop Cloud Value Dialog (Loaded) 1.0.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 90 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Share Panel (Loaded) 1.0.6.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 92 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.22.9.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_22_9\"
CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.0.2
Substance 3D (Prepared) 0.1.5.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.18.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 3.4.7.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 8351 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 3362 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 3363 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Discover Panel (Loaded) 3.0.0.27 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 8352 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Content Credentials (Registered) 0.34.5.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Neural Filters (Registered) 1.15.0.79 - from the file "Required Folder"
Scan time: 0 ms - entries: 24

Extensions:

Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_22_9\index.html”
com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_22_9\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html”
com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_22_9\extensions\capture\capture.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2023\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2023\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_22_9\manager.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

[CShubert]

Thank you @NerveBag for your sysinfo

Let's make sure we're in a default state and there are no stale settings somewhere: 

Restore your preferences using this manual method:  

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#Manually  

Does it work correctly? 

If that doesn't solve it, you can quit Photoshop and put the Settings folder back. 

Thank you,

Cory

[NerveBag]

It was a fresh install on a brand new computer. Brand new preferences (I wasn't syncing preferences at the time last summer). It was doing it as soon as I installed. 

But I tried restoring the preferences, and it didn't help. It never does. 🙂

Can anyone else reproduce this bug? Surely it can't just be me -- on two separate computers. Technically, three, because it ALSO did this on my previous computer before I built the new one last July. 

[Jeff Arola]

Yes i can replicate on Windows 10 with photoshop 2023 (ps ver 24.1.1), but not on the Mac side

under macOS Ventura 13.2 and photoshop 2023 (ps ver 24.1.1).

[NerveBag]

THANK YOU! At least I know I'm not crazy. 🙂

Again, I know it's a minor issue, but it affects me dozens of times a day, and since I don't have to click twice in ID or Illustrator to select something (oddly, I have the same issue with scaling items in Acrobat Pro, however -- ugh), it's difficult to develop the habit. Even if I could, it's still annoying.

Any insight on whether it's a bug or just a setting I could change?

[CShubert]

@NerveBag testing here and we are not seeing this. Could you share a video of what you are seeing, maybe we are missing something. Would love to find out what is going on with your multiple systems, but until we can repeat it here, it is hard to suggest fixes.

@Jeff Arola glad you were able to, anything else you can share in steps to reproduce?

Thank you,

Cory

[Jeff Arola]

Cory,

For me if i open a jpeg file, duplicate the layer then do a Ctrl+T or go to Edit>Free Transform, after use the scrubby slider on any of the fields in the Tool Options Bar, clicking on the image and trying to move it doesn't work.

If i click on the image again moving it works.

[CShubert]

Hi all, we were able to reproduce, sorry it took so long. 

Thank you,

Cory

[NerveBag]

Thanks, Jeff and Cory!

Let me know if you come up with any kind of solution/workaround. Like I said, it started only in vers 23 and later -- for me, anyway. 

I'm at least relieved you were both able to reproduce it and iit's not just my hardware/software configuration. 🙂

Thanks again for at least listening and acknowledging the issue. 

[Mohit Goyal]

Hi all,

We are happy to announce the release of Photoshop version 25.2, which incorporates the resolution for this particular problem. To see the list of all fixed issues, click here

To update Photoshop to 25.2, click "Update" in the Creative Cloud desktop app next to Photoshop. More detailed instructions for updating

Let us know if the update resolves the problem for those affected, and share your feedback.

Thanks,

Mohit

[NerveBag]

Oh, wow! I'll be honest, I didn't expect this to ever actually get fixed. 🙂 I've only tried it a couple of times real quick, but it does seem to be working now. Huge thanks for fixing that! That makes my life so much easier, and I get to use all the features of the new versions. Thanks again!