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November 14, 2023
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4-color black and white images, GCR and Custom CMYK

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Hi, I've been asked by a printer / client to adapt a 4-color black and white image using heavy GCR to prevent any color cast and ensure the K channel is dominant. I've been advised to do this by using Convert to Profile / Custom CMYK and adjusting the GCR black generation to Heavy. I've also read elsewhere that Custom CMYK is some sort of 90s aberration and it's better to pull out your eyes than use it. What's the best way of getting good results here? They're only asking me to do this for the black and white images in 4 colours. It's using FOGRA52 uncoated (side-note: converting to a custom profile doesn't include this as an option…).

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Correct answer Stephen Marsh

@ukzembla 

 

I have uploaded the test .PSD file, the .ATN action file and the 3 .ICC profiles are required for the action to run without errors. You will need to install the ICC profiles before running the action.

 

Download link:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/n7w2h65j3ygrgou44t4jh/Fogra-52-Neutral-Heavy-GCR-Conversion.zip?rlkey=7ti7poda03q13icvg3as5e2gp&dl=0

 

You can compare a standard conversion vs. the action, CMY vs K channel, Lab values etc. Use at your own risk and all standard disclaimers, however, I believe or at least hope that you will find it useful :]

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Stephen Marsh
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November 14, 2023

@ukzembla 

 

I'll post some practical advice a bit later on how to prepare for F52.

Stephen Marsh
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Stephen MarshCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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November 15, 2023

@ukzembla 

 

I have uploaded the test .PSD file, the .ATN action file and the 3 .ICC profiles are required for the action to run without errors. You will need to install the ICC profiles before running the action.

 

Download link:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/n7w2h65j3ygrgou44t4jh/Fogra-52-Neutral-Heavy-GCR-Conversion.zip?rlkey=7ti7poda03q13icvg3as5e2gp&dl=0

 

You can compare a standard conversion vs. the action, CMY vs K channel, Lab values etc. Use at your own risk and all standard disclaimers, however, I believe or at least hope that you will find it useful :]

ukzemblaAuthor
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November 15, 2023

Thank you so much! Did you make / alter these yourself? I'm not totally sure I know where to start here, or how to check the accuracy of what I'm liable to get out - any pointers / links to other threads where this has been dealt with?

Kevin Stohlmeyer
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November 14, 2023

@NB, colourmanagement this sounds right up your alley!

NB, colourmanagement
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November 14, 2023

I agree with the folk who say "custom CMYK" is an aberration. I'd recommend perhaps editing the relevant FOGRA profile's black curve using a profile editor. 

Neil Barstow Colourmanagement. 

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hope this helps.