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December 31, 2018
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ACR and Lightroom HSL

  • December 31, 2018
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It's documented that the saturation slider in Lightroom's HSL panel works like Vibrance. However, I can't find any documented evidence the same is true for Camera Raw in Photoshop. It would be  odd that they didn't both work the same. Anyone know the answer?

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    D Fosse
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    Community Expert
    December 31, 2018

    It's documented that the saturation slider in Lightroom's HSL panel works like Vibrance.

    This is a misunderstanding, that's not how it works. Edit: I misunderstood, I assumed you meant the global Saturation slider. The individual sliders may work differently.

    You can simulate Vibrance vs. Saturation in Photoshop, with a Curves layer set to Color blend mode.

    • Moving the white and black points into clipping (a steeper straight line), simulates Saturation. This drives color channels into clipping very quickly.
    • An S-curve simulates Vibrance. This way you get increased saturation in the midrange only, but no additional channel clipping.

    In any case, all the HSL controls should be handled with care. If overdone, they can break up image integrity with blocking and banding. Counter to what you'd think, this also applies to raw processing in Lr/ACR.

    Daniel E Lane
    Inspiring
    December 31, 2018

    Well that would be weird in either case since there is a Saturation slider as well as a Vibrance slider. Do you know how those work differently? Saturation raises or lowers the overall saturation of the image evenly. Vibrance increases the intensity of the more muted colors across the image, while leaving the more saturated colors alone.

    Participant
    December 31, 2018

    The single Saturation slider in the Basic panel is global and works as you described. But the saturation controls in the HSL panel are for individual colors and operate like Vibrance (you'd think they'd call it Vibrance instead of Saturation to avoid confusion - go figure). I first found out about this in Martin Evening's Photoshop Lightroom Classic CC book.

    davescm
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    December 31, 2018

    Hi

    The saturation sliders do work on saturation although in a non linear way.

    You can be confident that Lightroom Classic and ACR work the same (provided you are using the matching versions of each, easily done by ensuring both are the latest updates).
    You can prove this just by making some HSL adjustments in Lightroom, and opening as a smart object in Photoshop. Now double click the smart object - ACR will open with exactly the same adjustments made on the sliders.

    Lightroom:

    ACR:

    Dave