AI generative fill not creating clouds in sky

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November 20, 2023
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The photo has a tree covering the top 2/5 of the frame, land and other stuff filling the bottom 2/5. In the middle is sky (interupted by the tree trunk. All sky is selected inclding some parts between the leaves, I type in "fill sky with clouds and blue sky" or "fill sky with clouds" and all is see is a bigger hole in the tree showing more sky. What did I do wrong? How to make my now grey/white sky fill up with blue and clouds?

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Bill Junk

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I'm also having trouble getting Generative Fill to create realistic clouds to use to enhance a bland sky. I've asked for "a few small clounds" which generated a fill with a large mountain range and some big clouds, I've asked for "a thin layer of circus clouds" which generated cumulus clouds, and another one where an eliptical selection was made, asked for circus clounds and it generated nothing. I'm beginning to wonder if the language understanding model is not able to parse out the key parts of my request. I have had some pretty good results when I'm making a selection of something I want removed from the image. In those cases I did not specify what to do, just clicked the generate button with no instructions.

c.pfaffenbichler

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Could you please post screenshots with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Properties, Options Bar, …) visible?

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Bill Junk

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I think you could rethink your use of Generative Fill for cases like this.

Why not create cirrus clouds and then place them in the proper Layer Mask?

As one would do when combining (stock) images before.

(Though I can not vouch for Genetaive Fill’s metereological savvy … so whether the cirrus clouds meet your expectation remeins to be seen.)

Strangely I think until recently there used to be a thread on prompts for Generative Fill tagged to the top of the Forum.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/how-to-create-effective-ai-prompts-photoshop-quick-tip/td-p/14302139

Still I think a prompt like «the sky needs …« is not ideal, the verb seems vague and unhelpful.

The reason I went to Gnerative Fill is that it seemed like a reasonably direct (easy?) way to change or remove something that I didn't like or to which I wanted to make a modest improvement that didn't really change the basic nature of the image. I guess I was expecting more capability from Generative Fill than was really available right now. I have not seen a thread that suggest how to structure Generative Fill requests. All that I've seen are the short, one sentence suggestions that come along with invoking the tool. I'm also somewhat torn between leaving an image the way it was shot or making changes that don't retain the basic content and integrity of the original photo - in other words after eigher using Generative Fill or blending in part of another image, the new image is not the real scene, but rather some kind of abstraction of it. In some ways it's a bit of an ethical dilema for me. How I reconcile what to do must consider what the intent of the final image will be. Am I trying to do artistic creation and "reality doesn't matter" or am I trying to show a real place as I saw and photographed it with just a few changes the enhance the composition. These new technological advances sometimes make the decision as to what is acceptable to do much harder to make.

pintree3Author

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Addendum: With the sky part selected I tried the "Edit --> Sky replacement" and I was prompted with. "Could not replace the sky because no sky was detected" I would assume this is why the AI Generative fill did not work. but either wayI do not understand why this is so. DOes the sky have to be on top with no obstacles?

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly, what is important is invisible to the eye." ---------The Little Prince

c.pfaffenbichler

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Please try Sky Replacement without any active Selection.

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