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cferrero
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April 17, 2019
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best way to customize DPI for photoshop generator?

  • April 17, 2019
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I love the PS generator, I use it for almost everything and works great (most of my work is digital).

I was working on some images for a large scale printed signs, and I set them up like I always do, to use the generator, only to have all the images be generated in 72DPI instead of 300DPI, and I can't find a way to specify the DPI I want, is there even a way to do it? if so how?

thanks

Carolina

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Participant
October 25, 2019

We use generator for more than just web and screen assets and the old version left the resolution the same as the document, but now it is 72dpi always. Using the "save as" function requires you to save each manually which defeats the purpose we were using genrator for to begin with. It would be nice to save out everything with one click again. 

Participating Frequently
August 13, 2022

I've been using the asset generator for a few years and have just realised (blindly doh!) that somewhere along the line it changed and now no longer takes on the default dpi of the document so all my print images I've been generating have come out as 72dpi instead of 300dpi as they used to (I have a ton of images for sale as printable digital files - you can imagine my heartbreak right now!!!) .   When it changed I have no idea but I use the Generator in scripts and actions I've written to save time and I'm really bummed that this has changed.   How now do I easily generate printable 300dpi images easily like I used to be able to do using the Generator?????  Do I have to manually now save every Group as a file??  💔😭😔 Devastated!!

PLEASE ADOBE !!!!!  make generator use the native dpi of the document not default to 72 .. it makes the generator useless unless you only create images for the web 😞

davescm
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 14, 2022

@vanfam wrote:

ie. When I look at the images in finder etc it says 72dpi so will the printer read it as 72dpi and therefore affect the way it prints or will it not matter and print as per the quality of the file anyway?


 

Just stating ppi doesn’t say what the effective print resolution is. You might say 72 ppi, but that has no meaning unless you say both the height and width in pixels and in inches. If you don’t, you have only one half of the math; to see what the effective ppi resolution is, you have to state both the pixel dimensions and the physical dimensions (inches).

 

For example, if you have a 2400 x 3000 pixel image, and the printing company sets it up as 8 x 10 inches, you get:

 

2400 pixels wide divided by 8 inches = 300 pixels per inch

3000 pixels wide divided by 10 inches = 300 pixels per inch

 

So you see, even if the ppi value in the file is missing or not 300 ppi, it must end up at 300 ppi just because there are 2400 pixels wide divided by 8 inches. It doesn't matter whether it says 72 ppi or 6000 ppi in the file, as long as the printing company specifically lays out those pixel dimensions as 8 inches wide by 10 inches tall, the math dictates that number of pixels has to end up at 300 ppi at that physical size in inches.

 

Look at the pixel dimensions produced by Generator, and divide them by the print size you want in inches. If the resulting ppi value is enough, you’re OK no matter what ppi it says in the file.

 

Where it can be confusing is when the image does say 72 ppi, and the print layout software uses that ppi value to set the initial physical size on import. For example, if the 2400 x 3000 pixel file says 72 ppi, many print-oriented applications will say “OK, so 2400 x 3000 pixels divided by 72 ppi means the default print size is 33.33 x 41.66 inches.” Well, that size isn’t what a customer usually wants. But if the printing company is doing their job, they should say “That’s not the size the customer asked for, let’s set the physical size to the 8 x 10 inches they want,” and as we saw earlier,  if they set 2400 x 3000 pixels at 8 x 10 inches, that results in 300 ppi, regardless of the ppi metadata in the file.

 

Because ppi has no meaning until the pixel dimensions and the print size in inches are both stated, (assuming resampling isn’t used) a low ppi value in the file can be OK if the pixel dimensions are there to support the ppi value at the print size you actually want. An 8 x 10 inch image at 300 ppi can also be 4 x 5 inches at 600 ppi, or 16 x 20 inches at 150 ppi…because those are all the same 2400 x 3000 pixels, just stretched across different sized areas. Put another way, if you have 2400 x 3000 pixels at 72 ppi but you require 300 ppi, the math says you are OK as long as it will be printed at 8 x 10 inches or below.


Conrad is absolutely right in that 300ppi can be worked back from the physical size and pixel dimensions but there is a risk in doing it that way.

 

By not specifying a ppi  value, the software the printer uses will insert whatever default it uses for missing ppi , which could be any value but let's say 72ppi as Photoshop does, and the printer will need to alter the dimensions to make it work as specified. This is where the risk comes in. If they correct the physical dimensions without resampling then you do indeed end up printing your correct dimensions at 300ppi. However, if they alter the dimensions and resample, then you print your required dimensions at 72ppi and lose image information.

It depends whether you trust your printer to do the right thing. Some are  good and will do that, some will use the wrong option and your prints would suffer.

Personally, I would take the risk out of it and include ppi in the file. That way, the layout software should open the images with no correction necessary, and therefore nothing to get wrong.

 

Dave

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 17, 2019

For print you use Save As.

Generator (and Export) is for web, screen and mobile devices, where ppi doesn't apply. So it's stripped from the file entirely. The 72 figure appears as a default when the file is reopened into Photoshop, which for unrelated reasons needs some ppi value.