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Brush Properties-Color Dynamics-Control Fade not working anymore

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Apr 18, 2023 Apr 18, 2023

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If you go into Brush Properties and try to set "Control Fade", after setting the "Foreground/Background setting to 100%, the colors no longer transition between foreground and background. They now basically "mix" the foreground and background together the whole length of the stroke, no longer transitioning between the colors at the  Control Fade setting that you entered. To test how this should work, click the "Apply per tip" box and stroke again with the brush, you'll see the colors switched between foreground and background until the location of the "Control Fade" number is reached, then the rest of the stroke will be one color. Also, if you uncheck "Apply per tip" and leave all the other settings you've entered untouched, the color of the stroke will change differently if you stroke again and again, which shouldn't happen! Being a digital artist, I use this "Color Dynamic" "Control Fade" setting in conjunction with the "Shape Dynamics" "Control Fade" setting, to give me hair strands that start out in black and end white tipped all in one stroke. Great effect and time saving. I went to do this yesterday and ran into the above issue and brush "breaker"!! Not sure which update broke this since I haven't used it in a couple of my last drawings, Please duplicate issue and fix. If you need more information from me, let me know. Quite surprised to have discovered this BUG.
 

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Community Expert , Apr 19, 2023 Apr 19, 2023

Your screenshots appear to show dynamic color working as designed.

 

A brush stroke is actually a series of stamps so to get a dynamic colour change along a stroke then 'apply per tip' needs to be checked. To quote the documentation:

Apply per tip - Specifies changing color for each distinct tip stamp in a stroke.

If unchecked, dynamic changes occur once at the beginning of each stroke. You can vary color between strokes, rather than within each individual stroke.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/using/adding-dynamic-elements-brushes.html

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Hi @Brad22414184ax00 would it be possible for you to share you whole screen workspace for us to see what settings you have?

 

It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.  

 

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Thanks for the quick response. Sys inf9 below, do you need more?

 

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Yes @Brad22414184ax00 please share a few screenshots of your process, we are not seeing the same windows you show in your first post. A simple step by step with the path to what you are clicking on will help.

 

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Here are some screenshots of what's happening.

I'm stroking a path with the standard PS hard brush. I've set the size
to fade to a point at the end of the path when stroked. I also set the
Color Dynamics to jitter 100% and Fade Control so, foreground color
gradually fades into background color. This normally gives me
something like for instance a hair strand that starts off at the base
as black and ends up with a white tip. This used to work all the time.
In the screen shots, I've checked the "Apply per tip" (normally I
wouldn't do this during this process) to show where the Control Fade
setting kicks in or in the shot, the place where second color starts.
You can also see the difference in colors between the first and third
strokes, with no changes to the settings!!?? As I said, normally this
setting would result in a gradual change from one color to the next
along the stroke. If I have some other setting screwed up let me know
but, I've been doing this process for years with no problems.

Love this product, my first issue in over 30 yrs!!! Thanks for the help!

Brad
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Hi @Brad22414184ax00 did you attach images? Nothing has come through, maybe try again?

 

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Don't understand that, here's what I sent the last time.


Here are some screenshots of what's happening.

I'm stroking a path with the standard PS hard brush. I've set the size
to fade to a point at the end of the path when stroked. I also set the
Color Dynamics to jitter 100% and Fade Control so, foreground color
gradually fades into background color. This normally gives me
something like for instance a hair strand that starts off at the base
as black and ends up with a white tip. This used to work all the time.
In the screen shots, I've checked the "Apply per tip" (normally I
wouldn't do this during this process) to show where the Control Fade
setting kicks in or in the shot, the place where the second color starts.
You can also see the difference in colors between the first and third
strokes, with no changes to the settings!!?? As I said, normally this
setting would result in a gradual change from one color to the next
along the stroke. If I have some other setting screwed up let me know
but, I've been doing this process for years with no problems.

Love this product, my first issue in over 30 yrs!!! Thanks for the help!

Brad

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Apr 19, 2023 Apr 19, 2023

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@Brad22414184ax00, we were referring to this;

 

Screen Shot 2023-04-19 at 11.25.46 AM.png

 

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Resent the screenshots, they're .png files. You should be able to see
these right??

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You should be able to post there here just as your original one, are you not able to do that? It was a .png so yes, you should be able to do the same thing as your first post.

 

If you are having issues, feel free to send them to me, shubert@adobe.com and I can post them.

 

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Screen Shot 2023-04-18 at 2.39.43 PM.pngScreen Shot 2023-04-18 at 2.37.22 PM.pngScreen Shot 2023-04-18 at 2.42.36 PM.pngScreen Shot 2023-04-18 at 2.26.21 PM.pngScreen Shot 2023-04-18 at 2.26.48 PM.pngScreen Shot 2023-04-18 at 2.45.30 PM.png

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Thank you for the excellent images clearly outlining the issue.  One thing to try as we look into this;

 

Let's make sure we're in a default state and there are no stale settings somewhere: 

Restore your preferences using this manual method:  

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#Manually 

Does it work correctly? 

If that doesn't solve it, you can quit Photoshop and put the Settings folder back. 

 

 

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I went to the "Manual" link. Screen Shot 2023-04-19 at 12.12.31 PM.pngI don't have a folder called Adobe Photoshop 2023 Settings anywhere on my iMac. The only folder I find when searching the mac is called Adobe Photoshop 2023 and doesn't have a "settings" folder either but, it does have a presets folder. Sending a screenshot.

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@Brad22414184ax00 if you hold down your Option key as you select the Go dropdown from the top menu, you will see the Library level you want to start with...

 

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Found the Library using the option key. Moved my Adobe Photoshop 2023 Settings folder to my desktop. Opened PS again, tried the same process and got the same results unfortunately. Sending 3 shots. One with "Apply per tip" checked, and the other 2 showing no fade and surprisingly different color mixes.Screen Shot 2023-04-19 at 1.16.57 PM.pngScreen Shot 2023-04-19 at 1.15.30 PM.pngScreen Shot 2023-04-19 at 1.16.32 PM.png

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@Brad22414184ax00 fade for color dynamics requires apply per tip to be enabled, are you saying that you used to NOT have to do that or something else?

 

If you enable apply to tip, do you still have the issue you brought up?

 

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In each series I sent you I showed you an "apply per tip" stroked path. You can see the results, it is applying per tip thru the progression till it hits the Control Fade setting. I never had "apply per tip" checked in the past to get the fade to work. What happens when you try to replicate this on your end. What results are you getting. You have all the infomation in the screenshots to try this, or should I say "replicate" the process to tell me if it's something on my end ore something that was inadvertantly changed while tweeking something else in one of your updates. It shouldn't take you more than 10 mins to try this on your end, which is why I made sure all the info to replicate the issue was in the screenshots. Let me know your results. if I had another copy of PS on my other PC I would have already tried it on that installation.

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Your screenshots appear to show dynamic color working as designed.

 

A brush stroke is actually a series of stamps so to get a dynamic colour change along a stroke then 'apply per tip' needs to be checked. To quote the documentation:

Apply per tip - Specifies changing color for each distinct tip stamp in a stroke.

If unchecked, dynamic changes occur once at the beginning of each stroke. You can vary color between strokes, rather than within each individual stroke.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/using/adding-dynamic-elements-brushes.html

 

 

To control the dynamic colour change with Fade, Jitter should be at 0% otherwise you will just get random changes with each brush stamp along the stroke. If you set it to 100% every stamp in teh stroke will be random  overriding the fade settings.

 

The settings below give a smooth red (foreground colour) to green (background colour) fade on every stroke

2023-04-19_23-48-37.jpg

Dave

 

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Perfect!!!~ That nailed it, I was screwing up with the 100% setting!

Thanks for sticking with me on this one, Thank the Void, I didn't have to redo all my "settings"! User error. Again, I appreciate the support, Stay Safe, Cory

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Wanted to Thank Dave too for replicating my issue and sending the details on the tool!

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