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September 5, 2021
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Can an application detect photos that's been photoshop even though the image is flatten?

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I recently accepted a job where I need to take pictures that is strict on no editing. I had this one case where the picture is a little blurry and I had to insert a signature through editing. Is there away to detect wether the photo has been edited?

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PECourtejoie
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 6, 2021

Hello, do you really think you should try to do something illegal in your job, then do additional steps to hide the fact that you did it?

 

Some structures that do not allow editing, permit it under the condition that it would be clearly disclosed, in metadata, in the image caption, and sometimes by an overlay clearly stating that the image has been edited...

 

There are entire industries dedicated to image forensics...

Stephen Marsh
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 5, 2021

If it comes down to it, digital imaging forensic software/trained people will surely catch you out.

 

Even if you strip out metadata, it will likely be re-ordered or otherwise changed from the original, at least leading to a suspicion that something may have been changed.

 

If you save into JPEG, each program leaves an often unique "fingerprint" in the DCT which can be detected, so for those that know how to look, a JPEG saved directly from a camera is different to other cameras or software.

jane-e
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 5, 2021

@defaulto98d4wu9relu wrote:

I recently accepted a job where I need to take pictures that is strict on no editing.


 

If your job says don't edit, then don't edit. This is something that makes the newspapers when photographers get caught and then fired from their jobs. 

 

~ Jane

 

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 5, 2021
quote

If your job says don't edit, then don't edit.

 


By @jane-e

 

Yes, that's what it boils down to. End of discussion.

 

If you made an honest technical mistake when shooting, just say so. That always goes down much better than trying to cover up and then getting caught.

davescm
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 5, 2021

It is hard to believe that this question is being asked ! Someone is employed on a strict no editing basis and comes on an open forum asking about covering up an edit!

The bottom line is that altered metadata sets the amber light flashing at which point a forensic look at the image data is going to find the tell tales of an edit. 

After that, depending on the purpose of the image, both you and your employer could be in deep hot water. 

Don't start your employment like this.

Dave

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 5, 2021

If it's skillfully done there's no way to detect it in the pixel data.

 

However, it will leave a trace in metadata. If that company policy is on forensic level, don't do it. Even if you edit metadata, chances are you won't exactly replicate the "virgin state" of the file.

Participant
September 5, 2021

Is there a way to erase the metadata entirely? Does snipping the photo erase the metadata?

 

Kukurykus
Legend
September 5, 2021

You may do it manually in Photoshop. Create transparent document with same dimensaion & resolution (+ maybe same color profile) as original image and holding Alt, drag original layer (from Layers panel) to new document canvas. Resave it on the original file.

Geppetto Luis
Legend
September 5, 2021

See if this is good for you.

 

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