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patrickh27764550
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August 2, 2022
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Canon 5D Mark iv HDR Effects

  • August 2, 2022
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I have a Canon 5D Mark IV and when I use the camera to make an HDR, I also have a choice of effects.  

 

Natural

Art Standard

Art Vivid

Art Bold

Art Embossed

 

Using Camera Raw, I can easily make an HDR with three images, but would love to be able to add the art effects.  I see the color profiles in Camera Raw, just above the Basic Panel, but don't see anything that resembles the Canon Art effects.

 

Can anyone advise me on this?  I see I can create my own profiles, but I don't know the correct settings for these.

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D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 2, 2022

A raw file is basically just a data dump from the sensor. All the rest is processing of the raw data - and the processing engine in ACR/Lightroom is fundamentally different from the Canon processing engine used either in-camera or in the Canon DPP software.

 

So camera settings can't be "reproduced" as such. It's a different process. But the effects can be mimiced by reverse-engineering, and that's what the various camera matching profiles do. I don't know if there are profiles to match these specific camera settings, but if there are, they should produce roughly the same result.

 

It's a frequently voiced complaint that ACR/Lightroom doesn't "match" the camera. But it's a different processing pipeline and there's no inherent reason it should match. There's no such thing as a "correct" rendering of raw data.

 

An alternative line of thinking here (and one that I myself subscribe to), is to expose the shot merely to preserve as much information as possible, regardless of how that might look out of the camera. Then process it in ACR/Lightroom to look the way you want.

patrickh27764550
Inspiring
August 2, 2022

"An alternative line of thinking here (and one that I myself subscribe to), is to expose the shot merely to preserve as much information as possible, regardless of how that might look out of the camera. Then process it in ACR/Lightroom to look the way you want."

 

That's pretty much what I do.

 

I assummed that the camera's software automstically applied certain setting to produce the art images and was wondering if they could be reproduced in PS.

 

I downloaded and installed Canon Photo Professional but didn't get to toy with it yet.

patrickh27764550
Inspiring
August 3, 2022

So my flight was delayed and I had a little time to work on this.  Canon Digital Photo Professional does the job, however I would like it if Camera Raw / Photoshop could do it.

 

I did a test run with three different effects, Art vivid, Art bold, and Ard embossed.  I made 3 different HDRs of each type and they all showe the same setting, see the attached panel.

 

I'd like to take these setting and create a custom profice in ACR, however I don't know what some of the settings in Canon DPP translate to in Adobe Camera Raw.

 

Can anyone translate these for me:  Some of them are obvious:

 

Brightness = Exposure

Saturation = itself

Contrast = itself

Strength = ???

Smoothness = ???

Fineness = ???

AxelMatt
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 2, 2022

The Canon Art effects are settings that are only availabe in the camera. Adobe software (Lightroom, CameraRaw) doesn't support such settings. If you wish to work with it you have to use the Canon tool Digital Photo Professional (DPP). This supports also the effects that you have assign to images in your camera.

  

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