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January 6, 2023
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Color Management and Color Proof Issue

  • January 6, 2023
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I'm really, REALLY, confused. 

Photoshop shows an image with WAY less vivid colors than the exported file. 

When I actiave Color Proof - Monitor RGB the problem is fixed. 

I read it has something to do with my .ICM file in Color Management. 

I changed to AdobeSRGB1988 (because my monitor IS SUPPOSED to be wide gamut) and the issue persists. 

 

My monitor is an Acer VG280K. 

https://www.acer.com/us-en/monitors/gaming/nitro-vg0/pdp/UM.PV0AA.001

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/d4d71d6a 

What am I doing wrong?

 

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Correct answer D Fosse

This all seems to be working correctly to me.

 

This is what you get when you buy a wide gamut monitor. You must have full color management at all times. You cannot use applications without full color management support.

 

The oversaturated version is wrong. Whenever you see that, you know that color management isn't working - either because the application doesn't do it, or because you have failed to embed the document color profile correctly, or because the monitor profile is defective (but it seems to be fine here).

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D Fosse
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January 6, 2023

This all seems to be working correctly to me.

 

This is what you get when you buy a wide gamut monitor. You must have full color management at all times. You cannot use applications without full color management support.

 

The oversaturated version is wrong. Whenever you see that, you know that color management isn't working - either because the application doesn't do it, or because you have failed to embed the document color profile correctly, or because the monitor profile is defective (but it seems to be fine here).

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January 6, 2023

@D Fosse @TheDigitalDog First of all, thank you so very much! Second... News! And more questions!

First, my display is not Wide Gamut. Its inly 100% sRGB. Bummer. 

Second, I compared my PCnext to an Asus Vivobook Pantone Certified laptop and both look almost the same. (What a relieve!)  I still have one question though If I may. 

The software that comes with my SpyderXPro creates an Color Profile and puts it as default on windows. Everything ok with that. BUT it also kind of calibrates windows all the time, even on the desktop, etc. I can switch this calibration on and off in the System Tray. Thing is, when I open Photoshop and it reads the default color profile in the color management I can still turn this overall calibration on and off on the tray. This makes the image I see in Photoshop change. Doesn't this meen I am "double calibrating"? 

davescm
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January 6, 2023

Thanks again guys. I'm way out of my league here and really trying to understand, but failing to do so. 

What DFosse stated is true, the ICC Profile is created after the calibration is finished, and at that point, the whole monitor gets "calibrated" Windows included, everything. Like a filter above the monitor. 

Now when I open Photoshop, it reads the created ICC Profile, but I still have the ability to turn the calibration on or off in the system tray. Should I leave it on?

 


Leave it on or the profile will not match the current state of the monitor.

Dave

TheDigitalDog
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January 6, 2023

Open this color reference image in Photoshop; how does it look compared to the other apps (and then try the soft proof):

http://www.digitaldog.net/files/Gamut_Test_File_Flat.tif

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8opl2w0iugy1rzg/Gamut_Test_File_Flat.tif?dl=0

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
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January 6, 2023

Thank you for keeping up with me. 😞

I opened the file. This time its like the other way around, lol. in Photoshop it looks great, and in the other aplicacion it looks a little "meh". Photo Viewer replicates it just like Photoshop. I'll do the Gamut Test Next. 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
January 6, 2023

Again, PS is correct and color managed.

The other app(s) not.

There is nothing wrong with Photoshop.

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TheDigitalDog
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January 6, 2023

That isn't a fix. All it does is show the image without proper color management. 

The other way you are viewing the image outside Photoshop isn't color managed so now it matches so you have two wrong previews. Photoshop is correct; it is color managed. 

See: http://digitaldog.net/files/SoftProofingInPhotoshopCC.mp4

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
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January 6, 2023

Thanks @TheDigitalDog 
But I still think the difference is WAY to exagerated for it being normal. 

I just aclibrated my monitor with SypderXPro Hardware and Software, the problem persists: The Photoshop file looks way to different than the export. I've looked at the exported file in different Apps. Including social media. 
I'm attaching snapshots of both with the Calibrated profile and the Color Proof. 
Also, a Render SaveForWeb. How do you see it in your PC? 😞

Thanks again! 😞