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CS6 PS Cropping Tool has many problems for working professionals...

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October 11, 2012
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Ok, I understand that the kids at Adobe would like to change things around in "upgrade versions" of Photoshop. However for working photographers and professionals that crop A LOT of images in the course of their work, the new cropping tool is a DISASTER! A few may like the new tool... however, there are many that don't. http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/photoshop_6_crop_tool?utm_content=reply_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification#reply_10280572

To the point, here's how to fix the problem. Adobe, you have the CS5 PS cropping tool code... please put that code EXACTLY as it is in CS5 into the "Classic" option for CS6 PS. This way, those who WORK with Photoshop and PAY to use the software can get their work done using the excellent crop tool as was in CS5 (which I have downgraded to so I can get work done) and those who are giddy about the new crop tool can play to their hearts content.

Adobe, you are upsetting a lot of paying clients with your new crop tool and the "faux" classic tool option. You might want to address this issue soon!

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Scotts39

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Has anyone figured out how to fix what these kid programmers broke in the crop tool? I'm paid to get photos done, not figure out how to fix everything Adobe messes up with their unneccecary and unrequested "upgrades"!

Chuck Uebele

Community Expert

When the crop tool in CS6 first came out, there were some things I didn't like about it, but there were others that I really liked, such as having the image rotate rather than the crop box. I find this much easier to use to get the rotation that I want rather than cocking my head to the side trying to eyeball the result.

As far as the settings, yes, they take a bit of getting used to, but I've found that I can crop just as quickly as pre CS6 versions, and I crop thousands of images also.

Despite Adobe's non responsiveness on the forums to some topics like this, they do listen. They spent a lot of effort to make improvements of the crop tool for PS CC. While it may not be prefect to some folks' standards, it is an improvement over CS6.

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MRobertson_NC

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When Adobe is willing to SELL me a new copy of Photoshop, perhaps I'll find out if the abortion which is the CS6 crop tool has been improved. If they continue to insist that I RENT software from them, they will never see another dime of my money.

We have one word for you, Adobe: Quark. Study their trajectory, because you are on it.

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RainyNiznik

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Wow! I also hate the crop tool in photoshop CS6 Bridge and home page.

After this and because of this I do not plan on buying any more upgrades: they only get worse!

I am sorry I just bought the CS6 upgrade now.

Now I know not to use CS6 but go back to CS5. Anyone thinking of buying CS6 save your money!

Adobe you need to give all the Photoshop CS6 buyers a free upgrade to CS7 if you fix the basic crop tool : otherwise thinking most of us will not buy again!!!!

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sunny4555

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Could it be affected by Windows updates as well?

Today I found my crop tool suddenly only want to rotate, which makes it completely useless ...

I have to agree with previous posts that CS6 is the worst Photoshop "upgrade" so far .. keeps crashing, numerous problems ...

Anyone else having this rotating issue and found a solution?

taravasya

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I just can`t understand! Why we need this disscution? It`s realy so hard:

It`s will be most better, if Adobe engenieres, save the "new mode" of crop tool, at least they would have made it possible, to preserve the "classic mode" a constant, as preference option

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MRobertson_NC

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The defense of the new tool, whether by users or by Adobe, is really quite irrelevant and useless. If the exact tool for a particular job is a hammer and your hammer gets replaced by a Swiss Army knife for no practical reason, it really doesn't matter how nifty and multifeatured the knife is: it doesn't do the job you need it to do. Adobe has decided to answer a question no one was asking.

Add features if you want. Add new tools if you want. But don't take away the basic usefulness of the simplest and most functional of the tools you already have.

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TheTrackBallGuy

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Donovan, MscottR69, and a few others I finally stumbled upon this post, Donovan I think I might have sent you a private message about this... What's to say that already hasn't been said... Why on Earth would they remove the ppi setting from the crop tool... I just got a hold of CS6 and was all giddy with excitement over using it, got all my color preference settings set, printers were all set up, toolbars just how I like them. I felt like I was a kid again opening my first Video Game Console (I hope I don't sound too wet behind the ears, I'm 32), everything was perfect and right in the world.... I open my first picture, do a little bit of editing, then save it as a PSD to make sure my editing stays in the original picture BEFORE I crop it.... I press the 'C' key on my keyboard, what is all this stuff? What happened to my simple, but brilliantly designed crop tool bar? I think to myself, OK Adobe is always on the cutting edge of design technology, the crop tool must have changed only for the better.... So I try and drag a marquee over my image, what the heck is going on! It's like I've lost all control, DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!!! So I fiddle around some more, oh, whew, there's a "classic mode" option, all is well.... NO! All is not well, I don't even know what they just did... OK one last try, let's just enter the dimensions I need into the width and height and enter the ppi, WHAT?!?! Where is the ppi box! I was dumbfounded! First you take a tool, as previously stated by many, that needed absolutely nothing changed, I'm only guessing you tried to enhance it, to compete with some of the wonderful filters that are out there, because the way the CS6 crop tool works, is certainly like On One's Perfect Resize filter, almost too similar... I'm using Bridge CS6, but I've gone back to using Photoshop CS5.... I think you have made a grievous error in judgment changing the crop tool to what it is now in CS6. I also feel if you went back and added the PPI box into the toolbar like a few of us are asking for, you'd be appeasing a lot more than just the few of us HERE that are asking for it... That's all I have to say for now....

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Anonymous

I also work for a living using Photoshop. I don't see how this CS6 crop tool is an improvement.

This morning I had to spend a extra hour going back and recropping images.

Having to move the image in the background rather than the tool in the foreground is not a good workflow for me.

And for some opaque reason, at least to me, I keep getting the wrong crop even if I save the custom settings - a real PITA

******

Were I asked for an actual improvement to Photoshop - I'd suggest a quick way to set image size & canvas size on one image and then have all my open images tiled to those same sizes. The Window -> Arrange -> Match All doesn't do it.

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Doug.S

Inspiring

I find the new crop tool easier and more functional than old CS5 way.

OTOH anyone who wants the old "classic" way has that option in CS6.

Seems like the best of both worlds.

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MRobertson_NC

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Perhaps I'm missing something, but assuming I'm not: No, sorry. Neither the new version nor the "classic" setting function in any way that is useful for my--or, it appears, many other people's--workflows. For instance:

1. I have an image which is 2500 x 4000 at 300 ppi

2. I need to crop/resize a section of the image to 125 x 146 at 72 ppi

3. I have a crop tool preset which is saved at those precise dimensions

4. In "classic" mode, I use the tool to select the crop area and apply the crop

5. My resulting image is now (for the purposes of this example) 1772 x 2070 at 300 ppi

There is nothing about this function which achieves, or even nearly approximates, the behavior of the crop tool in previous iterations of Photoshop. In CS6, I must now also manually change the image size to 125 x 146 at 72 ppi, adding an additional, unnecessary step. I perform these actions using multiple different presets on multiple images a day, so the annoyance is compounded.

I would love for someone to show me what I'm missing and why I'm doing this incorrectly. Perhaps I have something set wrong and the extra step isn't really required, but I have yet to find that the error is on my end and not just a step backwards in the functionality of the tool.

Message was edited by: MscottR69 for spelling

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MRobertson_NC

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I had successfully put off upgrading to CS6 until yesterday. A huge chunk of my time at my desk today has been spent trying to understand what in the world Adobe has done to make the simplest of tools--Crop--absolutely cryptic and barely functional. I know I'm late to the party here, but why in the world did they think this was an improvement? I have YET to actually crop anything using the crop tool. I can change the proportions of a file, but for the life of me I haven't been able to figure out any way, in "Classic Mode" or not, to actually CROP an image down to the size I choose.

Seriously...I am as yet undecided on whether "abomination" is a strong enough word for this tool redesign. What a colossal waste of time.

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bebopnow2

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Couldn't agree more. I grown everytime I use the tool.

After 8 months with CS6 I still regularly lose time by getting the pen tool by mistake when using P shortcut for the crop tool.

Or, I lose the crop I just spent a lot of time deciding upon when a simple mistep collapses the image or rotates it.

Ira Kaufman

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kentoeveryone875

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I am going back to Photoshop CS5. The crop tools in CS6 messes up my workflow that much. What a disappointment!

Noel Carboni

Legend

Did you try the settings I showed above, Ken?

Resistance to change to this extreme may keep you from discovering a few good things that will have helped you.

-Noel

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kentoeveryone875

Participating Frequently

Thanks, Noel, but my issue is having to go through hijinks to set the resolution at the time of the crop. And it's not resistance to change, but resistance to added steps. It's simply faster to use CS5.

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bebopnow2

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Ira K

I am an advanced amateur and am finding the new crop tool a nightmare to use. Besides the problems documented above, I often cannot go

back and edit the crop even though do not delete pixels is checked.

I'd like to see the legacy crop method updated with additional features, like being able to lock the rotation and greater ease when making very small changes to the crop.

Noel Carboni

Legend

Asking for the tool to be redesigned when you haven't even figured out how to use it properly seems a bit premature.

When you say "I often cannot go back and edit the crop" you're implying you've done other operations between an initial crop and subsequently trying to change it. What are those?

If you can isolate a repeatable sequence of steps that leads you to what you perceive as a failure, then we should discuss specifics. It could be another operation is deleting pixels beyond the edge of the visible canvas, or that you're misinterpreting what you're seeing - or possibly even that you have a specific system problem that's preventing the new crop tool from working properly.

-Noel

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bebopnow2

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Hi Noel,

Perhaps you have a point. But I have been using photoshop for the past 8-10 years and the crop tool was never a problem.

Now it is. Today I wanted to expand my crop but could not do so using the "classic mode". I discovered that if I switched to the new mode, I was able to expand the crop.

Ira

taravasya

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It`s will be most better, if Adobe engenieres, save the "new mode" of crop tool(I personally like some of new trick`s(for example, that I can rotate the trimming frame with hotkey, or change crop preset while trimming frame already active), !!!but!!! at least they would have made it possible, to preserve the "classic mode" a constant. That would not be necessary activate it, each time then I change the crop-tool preset. This will be not bad... For..... inception
Sorry for my english ((((

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