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Curves don't apply during export

Community Beginner ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

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Hi, i'm working on something for which i'm using curves, and when I export my image the curves don't apply. I've tried every type of adjustment layer, and nothing shows on the final image when I export. I know about the preview quality thing where I have to zoom in to one hundred percent to see the true detail, but what's even stranger is that when I zoom in to 100%, the same thing happens where whatever setting I change or curve value I change, nothing happens on my image. Been bugging me for a while now it only just started happening. 

 

I included one screenshot of what I see, one screenshot of the image at 100% and one side by side view of my export preview and the preview in the workspace. Hope anybody knows what's happening! Saturation won't change anything either it doesn't work.Capture3.JPGCapture.JPGCapture2.JPG

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Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

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We can see that your document window is 3713 x 3713 pixels, so I would not expext it to be a zoom ratio thing, unless the adjustments are too subtle to see.  You say you have 'tried every type of adjustment layer' so this is not just curves?

 

It sounds like you are not seeing any change to your image even before you save it, so it will be no surprise that the saved document is sans changes, but just to be sure, how do you 'Export' the image exactly?  And does that process gice different result to just saving out to PSD or JPG?

 

The layers panel in your screenshot is not helpful because the selected layer is turned off, and if that Hue/Saturation had been turned on, the high Saturation setting would not be affecting your imagebecause it appears to be B&W.

 

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Can you try a simple test on a new document?  If your issue is then gone, we need a better view of your problem document settings.

 

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Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

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It's doing that for curves, brightness-contrast, hue-saturation, etc. I know some of my layers are offline on the screenshots, I was trying stuff out. My saturation layer was acting on a color overlay i had put on my b&w image to test if saturation was working during export. I am not a complete beginner, i'm looking for help outside the obvious causes.

 

I am exporting with the "export as" menu. Here's a ton of screenshots so nobody thinks i'm missing something obvious.

 

1 - How I export

2 - Curves working just a couple % view away from the next screenshot

3 - When curves start dissapearing from my image (curves ON)

4 - Curves OFF on the same view % as screenshot 3

5 - View at 100 % with curves ON

6 - Same as 5 with curves OFF

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Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

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I am not a complete beginner, i'm looking for help outside the obvious causes.

Yet only »5.JPG« and »6.JPG« (taken at View > 100%) were the meaningful screenshots I had asked for. 

They illustrate that the Adjustment Layer has no effect. 

 

The faulty display at lower magnifications is just Photoshop using lower resolution »stand-ins« to speed up previewing – which is usually no problem with photographic images, but with particularly noisy or essentially 1bit-images it can be one. 

One used to be able to circumvent this caching issue by setting the Cache Level to 1 but that was broken years ago and apparently not been deemed fix-worthy so far. 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/p-impossible-to-set-cache-levels-to-1/idi-p/...

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Jul 06, 2023 Jul 06, 2023

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I am not a complete beginner, i'm looking for help outside the obvious causes.

Yet only »5.JPG« and »6.JPG« (taken at View > 100%) were the meaningful screenshots I had asked for. 

This was for the other person who thought i didn't know how saturation worked. Don't take it personal?

 

Thank you for your explanation, so what I inderstand is that i might wanna mess with curves before i start pixelating / applying lots of noise on my image? Or otherwise avoid getting up to that point in the first place because ps can't deal with this information properly?

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Jul 06, 2023 Jul 06, 2023

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Photoshop does deal with the information »properly«, it just does not display reliably at magnifications smaller than 100% (actually 66% or so, but 100% has a default keyboard shortcut so it is more convenient). 

So to evaluate Adjustments reliably one should also check them at View > 100%. 

 

To speed previewing up downsampled »stand-ins« are used – and those can include pixel values that are absent (or present in significantly different quantities) in the actual layer. 

The easiest example being a Layer with only pure white and pure black pixels – the downsampled preview version contains gray pixels that don’t actually exist. 

cacheProblem.jpg

 

Like I mentioned previously one used to be able to circumvent the issue altogether – set the Cache Level to 1 (and deal with the ensuing performance). 

Unfortunately that option has been broken … 

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Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

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Could you please post screenshots taken at View > 100% with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Options Bar, …) visible? 

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Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

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Hi, I added more screenshots to the thread above your comment. Thank you!

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Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

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@Jonathan Theriault do you flatten a copy of your file before exporting?

After flattening can you see the effect of your adjustment layers?

 

I presume that you know export is for web only essentially, I prefer to use the legacy "save as" 

You'll want to check Enable legacy "Save As" in file handling Preferences

 

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I hope this helps
neil barstow, colourmanagement net - adobe forum volunteer - co-author: 'getting colour right'
google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management

 

 

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