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May 17, 2011
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Define Pattern Not Enabled - Why???

  • May 17, 2011
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I follwed the simple instructions in the help system to the letter. I make a selection using the rectangular marquee tool, but the Define Pattern menu item under the Edit menu is not enabled. What do I have to do to define a pattern? Why is such a simple thing so diffucult?

-Steve

      Correct answer Smiling_Carcass

      I know this is an old one, but in case anybody else has the problem and is seeking an answer not so far addressed, if you have  'Feather' selected (in other words, any option above 0 px) then 'Define Selection' isn't available.

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      Nawal5CBC
      Participant
      May 13, 2024

      I just figured out you can only define a pattern from the entirety of your canvas contents. Not from a selection. Your full canvas has to contain the repeat tile. You define pattern from your single tile, then you increase canvas size to do a pattern fill layer to see how the tile repeats

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        amyc61419590
        Participant
        August 18, 2023

        Try it with Photoshop Beta.  Seems to work for me now. 

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        Cathyee29548462y8vh
        Participant
        April 23, 2023
        " Smiling_Carcass • Community Beginner , Oct 19, 2019

        I know this is an old one, but in case anybody else has the problem and is seeking an answer not so far addressed, if you have  'Feather' selected (in other words, any option above 0 px) then 'Define Selection' isn't available." Yes, I reduce the feather to 0px and define pattern enable again! thanks so much!

        Smiling_Carcass
        Smiling_CarcassCorrect answer
        Participant
        October 19, 2019

        I know this is an old one, but in case anybody else has the problem and is seeking an answer not so far addressed, if you have  'Feather' selected (in other words, any option above 0 px) then 'Define Selection' isn't available.

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          mavante
          Participant
          September 23, 2021

          This should be stickied as the correct answer; it's what causes the "semi-transparent" pixels that make "Define pattern" unavailable. The current stickied "solution" doesn't give a solution; it just defines the problem. Trying anything other than turning off the feather—e.g. flattening the layer or image to maike sure there are no transparent pixels—won't solve it.

          Chris Cox
          Chris Cox
          Legend
          May 17, 2011

          Possibilities:  You're in a modal state, you have no selection, the selection is too large, or you've reached the maximum number of pattern presets.

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          ShotsterAuthor
          Participating Frequently
          May 17, 2011

          Thanks for taking the time to reply, Chris, but none of those apply. The selection is 31x31 pixels. The app is definitely not in a modal state. In fact, the Define Brush Presets item is enabled, but Define Pattern (just below it) is not. This is the first pattern preset I've tried to create, so I'm certainly not at the max. FWIW, I'm not a PS newbie. I've been using the app for nearly a decade. I just don't understand this behavior. Does the document have to be in a certain color mode or something?

          Any other ideas? This is quite frustrating. I might be an update behind, so if this is an issue that's been addressed in a recent update, let me know.

          -Steve

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          Wade_Zimmerman1
          Inspiring
          May 18, 2011

          Well, here's a real oddity. If I make the selection by command clicking - even if it's rectangular with no transparency and not discontinuous - the menu item remains disabled. If, however, I drag select the exact same region using the rectangular marquee tool, the menu item is enabled.

          I even drag selected the region, inverted the selection, and then pressed delete to remove any trace of content outside the region. After doing that, command clicking to select still results in the menu being disabled.

          Why? I don't understand. It seems that selecting the exact same region in two different ways yields two different results. Is that how it's supposed to be?

          -Steve


          Instructions for defining a pattern clearly states to select an area using the marquis tool.

          So use the marquis tool to select the area to be used as the pattern.

          In other words there is only one way to select the area t be defined as the pattern.

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