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January 17, 2020
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Desaturated colors in Ps Lr and Br after monitor calibration

  • January 17, 2020
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So I calibrated my new monitor LG with Sypider Elite, and now images look some wash out or desaturated when I open them in all my Adobe software (Ps, Lr and Br) vs when I open the same images in Windows Photo or internet .  I am in lost!!!! Can't find how to fix this ! Before calibration my  images will look the same color in any of the adobe and the windows photo viewer or internet.

I shoot in raw SRGB color space,  thought i may have saved images in different color space but no they are  all saved in SRGB.
I found in Photoshop on the Color Setting that if I change the part that says working Space to the new color profile that was created when I calibrated (Monitor RGB LG 34WK95U , this is the series of my monitor) the colors now match internet or Windows Photo Viewer. But I cant find how to change that in Br or Lr.

I work first in Lr and this is not helping because once I am done editing and then  when open in the photo viewer or upload the images online they are saturaded or wrong. 

Hope someone can help me to fix this.

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D Fosse
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January 17, 2020

Yes, monitor profiles can go wrong - but in the case of wide gamut monitors the explanation is usually a lot simpler. Without color management, they will display standard sRGB content wildly oversaturated. That's what the extended gamut does and why you need full color management.

 

You always do if you want accuracy, of course, but with these monitors it really jumps in your face.

NB, colourmanagement
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January 17, 2020

Good idea to try a test image and look at skintone saturation (in Photoshop), there's a free one here: https://www.colourmanagement.net/index.php/downloads_listing/

 

 

neil barstow, colourmanagement.net

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D Fosse
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January 17, 2020

Yep, Dave is spot on. Your images aren't "desaturated" in Photoshop, they are correct.

 

The saturated version you see in Edge or Photos is incorrect, because these apps don't support color management at all. Your monitor profile is ignored altogether.

 

That monitor is a wide gamut model (DCI-P3), which means that it can only be used in a fully color managed environment. That's the deal you implicitly accept when purchasing such a unit. Find out which of your applications aren't color managed - and stop using them. Find color managed alternatives instead.

 

For web, use Firefox set to Mode 1 (google it), or Chrome. Do not use Edge or Internet Explorer.

NB, colourmanagement
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January 17, 2020

Hi

NEVER set Photoshop's working space to the display profile, NEVER  - it should be a "device independent colour space" like sRGB or Adobe RGB depending on use. That’s how colourmanagement works.

IF your monitor's ICC profile is accurate, then Photoshop will give you the correct appearance - whereas Windows Photos (which lacks colourmanagement) will not because it doesn’t use the screen profile. You'd need to ask Microsoft why not, in this day of colourmanagement it seems crazy.

Adobe apps such as Photoshop (and Lightroom) do colourmanagement right, by using an image files colourspace (I believe that's sRGB in your case) in conjunction with the display profile to calculate correct values to send to the calibrated screen - these values are calculated to provide correct visual appearance (based on the readings made by the colorimeter when calibrating & profiling the screen to calculate its ICC profile).

A non colourmanaged application simply sends the unmodified file numbers to the screen to be displayed, if the display has a higher gamut (colour range) than the sRGB colour space of your file (and many do) then that will mean ovesaturated colour is displayed.

Internet use:

When saving images to go online please be sure to embed the sRGB colour profile, unfortunately in Photoshop's "save for web" this is not the default action. You need to manually select that option. As most web browsers are colourmanaged that should provide correct appearance.

 

ps

theres no such thing as raw sRGB - a RAW file has no colour space associated. The RAW file can be used to make sRGB, of course (using a raw processor) if you mean that the camera is set to save RAW & sRGB (so the camera saves both file types) that’s fine. 

 

I hope this helps

if so, please "like" my reply and if you're OK now, please mark it as "correct", so that others who have similar issues can see the solution

thanks

neil barstow, colourmanagement.net

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davescm
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January 17, 2020

It sounds like you may have a bad monitor profile and need to make it again.

Setting the document space to the monitor profile effectively disables color management. This would make the colours the same as non colour managed software I.e. incorrect.

Don't assume that the other, non color managed, software is correct. On wide gamut monitors such software displays images as oversaturated. So start by downloading some good test images with color profiles attached. Check the skin tones etc. Don't compare to non colour managed software.

If they are still under-saturated then remake the profile

 

Dave

 

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