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Heyah! So I just recently switched from Affinify to photoshop and Lightroom and am having strange issues that I've never had before.
when exporting from Photoshop to my iPhone photos don't necessarily look bad, but they really,really(!) lack some contrast, black point and vignettes. In fact, those three barely show up in my photos at all!
I've watched a bunch of YouTube videos on what to do with some changes but nothing that fixed the issue.
Ive taken pics of settings in Photoshop. I will add them to this post.
Also I'm using a Samsung monitor with Radeon RX 5500 XT. I am not very tech savvy (a friend built my PC) so I can provide other specs if that would be helpful.
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I have tried with the embed profile option turned on and off and saw changes in the photos but still have the three issues I've posted about here.
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Also, just now, I was looking at monitor settings and noticed it was set to sRGB. It came out of the box like that. 😑😑
Could that be part of the issues? It's the Samsung UHD S7
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First of all - this would be much easier if you made actual screenshots instead of photographing your screen.
Second - there is no reason to trust your phone for anything. Photoshop is the reference, as long as you observe some basic color management guidelines. They're not complicated, and it basically works out of the box.
Leave Photoshop color settings at defaults. I see you have policies set to "convert to working RGB". Don't do that. It should always be set to "preserve embedded profiles". That's the way Photoshop is designed to work, and that's how modern color management is intended to work. With this setting, the embedded profile always takes precedence and overrides the working space. It follows from this that you always need to make sure there is an embedded profile. For the pruposes of this discussion it doesn't matter which one, as long as it's there.
The next link in the color management chain is the monitor profile. This is set at system level, not in Photoshop. The monitor profile is a standard icc profile, and it is used in a standard profile conversion like any other profile conversion - but executed by Photoshop on the fly, as you work. Photoshop loads the monitor profile at startup. It uses whatever profile it gets from the operating system.
The monitor profile has one job: it needs to describe the monitor's behavior in its current state, in detail. The profile is a map, and like any map it needs to describe the actual terrain accurately. If it doesn't, Photoshop cannot display correctly.
If both these profiles are present and correct, Photoshop will display correctly. And then you need to view the exported file in an application that also supports full color management and reads both these profiles and converts from one into the other.
The monitor profile should ideally be made by a calibrator, based on direct measurement off the display. Any serious Photoshop user will have and use a calibrator. If you want accurate color, it's an essential piece of equipment.
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Well I'll try this and see what happens. And yes I know of calibrators. I've been interested in the Spyder pro.
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Also just for reference, never had issue with color or anything with any other programs or devices I've used before Adobe. So I'm sure it's a setting or a few that aren't correct.
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If Photoshop doesn't display correctly, it's usually an inaccurate/incorrect/defective monitor profile. This is why you want to have a calibrator, so that you can quickly make a new one (which you should do at intervals in any case).
It can also be a GPU/driver bug, which can actually be the flip side to the same coin, since display color management is executed in the GPU nowadays. A marginal profile can fail in a buggy driver, whereas it would behave correctly in a good driver.
Many monitor manufacturers distribute monitor profiles through Windows Update. These manufacturer profiles are surprisingly often defective, and Samsung is a frequent offender along with Dell, LG, Acer and Asus. To test this, set the system monitor profile to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (or if the monitor is wide gamut, Adobe RGB). Relaunch Photoshop to load the new profile.
And again, phones are all over the map and cannot be trusted. They usually have some sort of basic and generic color management capabilities, but are often set to just display the most saturated color possible.
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I actually changed monitor settings yesterday. Did research on Samsung. I Also have an ASUS. I have a spyder pro on the way will be arriving tomorrow. And PC wise last week or so I replaced old drives and made some upgrades, got new ones, new windows with current updates etc etc.
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Also haven't touched anything until the spyder comes in and will be resetting Photoshop settings in case I changed something I don't remember changing. So I'll see what happens.
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IMO recent handhelds tend to be pretty consistent, one to the next, that’s my experience (mostly testing with iPhones since the 8, to be honest).
Try opening this test image in Photoshop
And this one on a phone browser - it was set up for an iPhone but it is still worth testing if you have an Android phone.
how do they compare?
I hope this helps
neil barstow, colourmanagement net - adobe forum volunteer - co-author: 'getting colour right'
google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management
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iPhone is a bit warmer but every Pc monitor i used is like that. So I'm not worried there. It does look closer then the past. I used the spyder pro today and not calibrated it was very noticeably much more blue then it is now.
My next question is, I reset all photoshop settings. It is set to sRGB but when exporting to photoshop from Lightroom it always shows the color profile is in Pro photo. Is there something I should do to get it to sRGB or ks this something to not really worry about?
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In photoshop, when I use "convert to profile" in the edit tab up top, changing from pro photo to sRGB doesn't change anything it looks like so that's why I'm asking about that now.
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Also to everyone sorry if I'm annoying. On this level of technical things I am not knowledgeable at all really.