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Generative expand goes crazy on the beach

Forum|Forum|8 months ago
July 3, 2025
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Hi to all!
My name is antonio and i'm a journalist adn photographer working in the fashion and beauty area.

In this part of the year and a bit before i work a lot on the beach to realize advert campaign for beachwaer brands and editorial to be published on magazines.

My problem is that when i try to use generative expand every, every, every time there is a model wearing a swimsuite in the frame i can only get the orange dialog the read: pleae check guidelines for the use of this service (something about this, ok)

This is a nightmare, i cannot use to work this feature of PS that could help me a lot; for example when i'm shooting from inside the sea walking in to the water i cannot change lens to my camera to avoid to drown it (tipicaly a pair camera plus lens worth abot 8000-9000 euros ) but when i try to expand the picture... the stop message get up.

Please how can avoid this ?

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c.pfaffenbichler

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I wonder, though, whether Generative Expand can even be useful for your hires images.

The Firefly limitations seem to apply, so aren’t the expanded areas of a terrible resolution (albeit upsampled)?

Trevor.Dennis

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That's a good point Christophe. If the OP needed to break that down into < 1024 pixel chunks, then that is going to take at least 15 seconds a time. That's got to add up to a serious delay with full res images. I am not sure where @Zott!!! got the three minute estimate from. The human input would be 30 seconds tops IME, so with a decent connection... There is no OS tag for the original post, but if @Zott!!! is using a Mac, I wonder if you could work on two Photoshop versions simultaniously, and swap between them while the other is waiting for the Adobe server to to its thing? I have never tried that, but it would an interesting experiment.

Zott!!!Author

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Dear @Trevor.Dennis , yes, i'm working on a mac and my connection speed id 10GB in download and 2GB in upload

my 3 minutes estimated time is about masking the subject finding the most adapt mask above all when some part of the body need to be generated using trial and error way based on my experience using this method

Trevor.Dennis

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You have to copy the layer and turn off the original.

Remove just the model from the frame. That's not with a layer mask, the model needs to be gone. You can probably even fill the area taken by the model with a solid colour, but Content Aware Fill would be safer.

Then make the selection and use Generative Fill and copy the model back in.

So:

Original

Object Selection Tool > People > Entire Person > Apply

Expand selection, and Content Aware Fill. I'm sure you knew all this

Select and add prompt. I wonder what we'll get

Turn the copy of the model back on and move to top of stack, and you've beaten the Adobe censor.

I'm sure you knew all that and were letting Adone know how annoying the censorship is for a working photographer, but they are not going to relax their position while Ai continues to get continuous bad press. It took just a few seconds to do the workaround, and the model was returned to the scene entirely seamlessly.

Trevor.Dennis

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BTW I was kind of taking the mick out of the Gen Fill algorithm by including the term 'handsome man' in my Gen Fill prompt. Is that reverse sexism? Should we be writing letters of complaint at the irony of it?

c.pfaffenbichler

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Please post at least one sample image, because talking about images one cannot see or test is obviously problematic.

Have you tried adding a Layer and blacking out the person on that Layer before expanding? (And removing the Layer afterwards.)

Zott!!!Author

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Here you can see a screen capture of a sample using not a bikini but a more wide full body swimsuite

http://wtrmagazine.it/expandsample.mp4

Thanks!

c.pfaffenbichler

Community Expert

As expected …

Edit: It would be easier if the person in the mage didn’t cross the canvas edge, then a rectangle might suffice.

In this case assuring that the legs and the top of the head are properly taken into account might make it necessary to use a more elaborate mask.

Stephen Marsh

Community Expert

YMMV. I just downloaded various bikini girl beach scenes and had no issues whatsover, while many others like yourself have guidelines issues/false positives. The reason why I wanted to test but couldn't trigger a guideline warning, was that it has been reported that simply adding a coloured rectangle to cover the "offending" model on a new layer is enough to circumvent the guideline balking.