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How do you load keyboard shortcuts? [2011]

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August 10, 2011
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Hi all.

I don't get it: The keyboard-shortcuts dialog has a way to save sets of shortcuts, but no way to load them. What is the point then?

Thanks for any insight.

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Correct answer ivanb6489798

I just found if you double click the .kys file it will open in Photoshop and it will automatically set the shortcuts you saved in that file. I hope this help you.

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Tarek34249480bsnp

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thats was helpfull thanks .

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Mobius StripAuthor

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You're welcome.

PBDsgn

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I ran into this problem when PS updated and wiped out my custom keybinds. I googled it and found this thread- but ironically no real "solution". So I started messing around with it.

I discovered that if you simply open the custom .kys file you create when you export the shortcuts, it installs them.

Not well documented and bizarre, but that's Adobe for you *shrug*.

Loïc_Bramoullé

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I actually realized I have slight PTSD from the number of times I lost all my PS workspace at one epoch I was not yet implementing a fierce "backup everything to dropbox every time you change a shortcut or anything". I learned Substance painter yesterday and my hands started to shake for the whole evening when I realized all the hotkeys I just customized, where gonna be destroyed the next time I need to reinstal, as they are stored in the registry, and editing keys there is not something specially healthy. Adobe damages your health basically. why though.. there's no reason.. it's just.. a file... to put there on the side.. and.. back .. IN.... There's years of your professional life in this file, it's what allows you to use the software, and pay for it to do your job.. it's very moronic to say "no artists don't need to backup their prefs we have user data.." No one on earth managed to keep the same photoshop install since 1997 without updating or resinstalling or updating your machine...... restoring preferences is obviously essential.

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Mobius StripAuthor

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B-b-but do you have USER DATA to support that glaringly obvious use case?

No? Then Chris Cox is gonna school you with his vast knowledge of how every user does everything... or at least on why Adobe's going to do nothing: because tutorial-doing grandmas with numerous custom keyboard maps licked this problem years ago.

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Katarzyna5EC4

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I love that I am reading this in 2020 and it's still not fixed 😄
It's funny how people can jump to defend almost anythng, including a giant corporation with honestly almost monopoly on the graphics market when someone makes a very valid complain about a nonsensical user experience which breaks all the rules established by not only adobe itself but also kind of the rest of the world doing softwere ever: the rule that if you can save a thing, you usually can load a thing and the two icons tend to be close by. Adobe markets as a professional product that is also user friendly. That is absolutely not a user friendly solution we are talking about here. End of topic 😄 Come on, people.

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Mobius StripAuthor

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Four years later, and Adobe is still demonstrating the fraudulence of its software-rental scam.

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Mobius StripAuthor

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EIGHT YEARS later, and still not fixed.

So much for the lie that Adobe's software-rental program was to going give them the budget to fix bugs.

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ivanb6489798Correct answer

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I just found if you double click the .kys file it will open in Photoshop and it will automatically set the shortcuts you saved in that file. I hope this help you.

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Mobius StripAuthor

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Thanks! Most users wouldn't do that, but I guess for now it's the most convenient workaround for Adobe's petulant refusal to fix this.

janelle_f

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For a reference to Adobe Photoshop's keyboard shortcuts, take a look at the new Photoshop CS6 Quick Reference Guide. It is in its beta form, but it is a great way to find shortcuts, as well as find a menu location that might have changed from CS5. We are looking for your feedback, which you can contribute on the site as well.

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distriller

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Well, all that arguing was a waste of time for an average reader here. Anyway, I for one am certainly bemused as to why there is no load button in the keyboard shortcut dialog. This is the workaround for this problem (written for Windows):

0) The folder for the default new keys is at C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS5\Presets\Keyboard Shortcuts\ (or similar)

1) In your new Photoshop (Edit -> Keyboard Shortcuts) save a dummy set, say NewKeys.kys

2) You can stay in the dialog, don't press OK

3) Get your good old GoodOldKeys.kys and copy that over NewKeys.kys (in explorer)

4) In the dialog select the Photoshop Defaults key and then re-select the NewKeys.kys (this loads the replaced NewKeys.kys)

5) Press OK and voilà!

c.pfaffenbichler

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You could copy them to

~/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop CS5/Presets/Keyboard Shortcuts/

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Mobius StripAuthor

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Thanks for the info, but... that's the intended method? That's pathetic even for Adobe. Why have the export function if there's no corresponding function to import the resulting file?

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Mobius StripAuthor

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You're asking for functionality that already exists. You're trying to justify that request by claiming that I don't know what customers want, and that we've ignored years of customer complaints. Yeah, that's really going to convince me to help you.

Yes, it might be nice to offer a convenience function for more simplistic users. And you're free to file a feature request for that. We'll fit that in with all the other feature requests we have, but it'll be a low priority because it is only a convenience function.

And trying to claim that your lack of understanding represents many users over many years -- that's not helping your case.

Please, search the forums, and let us know how many people have complained about this issue.

"What I was doing was simply attempt to disabuse you from your pre-conceived notion that everyone is for migrating, copying and deploying stuff"

I never said people want to do that. I sure don't want to do that, and I'm pretty sure that no one really wants to do that. What's your alternative? You say you would rather re-record or re-establish all of these workarounds on every machine one by one. That's fine for you. But it's absurd on a large scale or for experienced users.

"You're asking for functionality that already exists."

Exists if you record a macro. Fortunately, you can load action sets. And nice try with the condescension about "simplistic users." Pasting is not an action that caters only to "simplistic users." That asinine suggestion and tired strawman amounts to the old "you're not using it right" excuse, which is never accompanied by an explanation of how.

Adobe's longstanding failure to address design defects is evident all over Photoshop:

1. Dialogs don't remember previous settings. The Image Size dialog is a great example. Every time you pull it up, the units of measure are reset. So you have to switch from pixels to percent, or inches to pixels, over and over and over. The Save As dialog demonstrates the same disregard for user choices.

2. By default, Undo alternates between Undo and Re-do. Other applications have had multi-step undo for 20 years, and there's already a re-do key.

3. You fix #2 by remapping Ctrl-Z to "step backward" (on every system, because of the hotkey problem we've already discussed). This reveals another longstanding bug: "Step backward" inexplicably changes the layer that you selected, in addition to undoing the last action. If you were on a text layer and then switch to a bitmap layer and make a brush stroke, try pressing Ctrl-Z. Not only is the brush stroke undone, but the text layer is reselected, making it impossible to make a new stroke until you go and reselect the bitmap layer.

4. After drawing a selection box with the Rectangular Marquee tool, you can't resize it without going up to the Select menu and picking "Transform Selection" (or mapping a key for this on every system). Why can't you resize it by dragging any edge immediately? Even the free software that comes with scanners handles this properly.

5. Zooming with the mouse wheel doesn't snap to standard zoom factors. In fact, if you zoom with the wheel, you often can't even return to 100%. It will go from 99.4% to 102%, skipping 100%. Common sense would dictate that the zoom snaps when crossing Photoshop's normal zoom levels, like 25%, 50%, 66.7%, 100%, 200%, and so on. Note "when crossing"; I'm not saying the wheel should ONLY go to those factors.

6. No integrated thumbnail browser. It took until what, 2005, before Photoshop had any thumbnail browser at all, and it arrived in the form of a bloated separate application. Shareware photo-editing programs in the '90s had speedy and efficient thumbnail browsing, but in 2011 Adobe still can't pull it off. We hoped "mini-Bridge" was finally going to address this, but nope: You still have to have Bridge running. Sad.

And that's just what I can think of at the moment. Then there's Illustrator, which is practically abandonware at this point. If you want to talk about "many users over many years," this glaring defect is a great example:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856221?start=0&tstart=0

So you guys can get to work, or just keep making excuses and blaming users. I wonder what it'll be.

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