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How to use photoshop on 4K monitor? the scale of interface is too small...

New Here ,
Feb 11, 2015 Feb 11, 2015

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Geting started with Photoshop cc on 4K monitor faced with problem of scale of interfece-its too small. How to adjust it to that resolution 3200x1800? Thanks in  advance.

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Community Expert , Feb 11, 2015 Feb 11, 2015

Preferences > Experimental features > Scale UI 200%.......

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New Here ,
Feb 23, 2016 Feb 23, 2016

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‌i see it as a problem, not a feature. i want to edit a photo at 100% not 'roughly as they did before'... anyway, I got it right and it works for me... What ever you do or other people do is entirely up to them...

if it is a feature, why are so many people having 'problems' with it....?

i Think in fact you and I are talking at crossed purposes.... I am talking about display upscaling the actual display in the iMac user options... I'm not talking about upscaling in Photoshop....

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LEGEND ,
Feb 23, 2016 Feb 23, 2016

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Because like you, they are having a problem seeing applications that do not user their interface. Because high-resolution displays have a pixel size smaller than low-resolution displays have. Things display smaller on high-resolution displays then the same pixels displayed on low-resolution displays.

Go to best buy look at all the 1080P displays. The displays that display 1920x1080 pixels.  You will see them on  tablets, on small HDTV and Large Screen HDTV they are all displaying the same 1920x1080 digital images.  The difference is the tablets have a high-resolution display the small HDTV have a low-resolution display and the large screen HDTV have a very low-resolution display. You have no problem seeing each of the pixels on the large screen display, where you need a magnifying glass to see the pixels on the small 8" tablets.

There is a difference between scaling just the UI and scaling everything being displayed like OS can do. Which defeats high-resolution for things are scaled up in size less can fit on the display the whole display is like a low-resolution display with 1/4 the number of pixels

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 05, 2016 Apr 05, 2016

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I'm having the same trouble with Photoshop CS6 and Bridge but not with Premiere Elements 14. I have a 28" 4K screen running at 60Hz over displayport and the UI fonts are tiny in these programs. My guess is that Adobe will not bother to correct this in CS6 but will they correct it in CC( have they?)? The options of 100% and 200% are not enough. If they have (or are likely to) corrected  it in CC then it might be worth my while taking out a subscription but if not, then I'll stick with CS6 - which I've already paid for.

It is notable that Adobe get it right with Premiere Elements but not with their other (more expensive) software. Also, that most, but not all, of my other programs seem to work well at 4K. So if other software manufacturers can get it right, how come a big company like Adobe can't? And don't give us all that bul****t about 'working with Microsoft' when Adobe can do it with at least one of their programs and other companies can also do it.

Fix it Adobe.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 05, 2016 Apr 05, 2016

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Mike Hounsome wrote:

My guess is that Adobe will not bother to correct this in CS6 but will they correct it in CC( have they?)?

That's right, CS6 will not receive any more updates.

Fix it Adobe.

They have. The current CC version fully supports high-density displays and has so since CC2014.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 05, 2016 Apr 05, 2016

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So the current Photoshop CC allows one to choose any UI scaling, not just 100% or 200%? If so, I might consider subscribing.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 05, 2016 Apr 05, 2016

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You're right, a 150% option would be useful for some people. I'm not denying that. 28" at 3840 x 2160 would fall into that middle category.

My bad. I assumed you were just complaining about the small image size, just like everybody else. I'll read more carefully next time, I promise.

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Apr 05, 2016 Apr 05, 2016

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Mike Hounsome wrote:

I'm having the same trouble with Photoshop CS6 and Bridge but not with Premiere Elements 14. I have a 28" 4K screen running at 60Hz over displayport and the UI fonts are tiny in these programs. My guess is that Adobe will not bother to correct this in CS6

Here is a CS6 fix to look at: http://www.danantonielli.com/adobe-app-scaling-on-high-dpi-displays-fix/

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Community Expert ,
Apr 05, 2016 Apr 05, 2016

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As long as it's understood that this option will scale everything, including the image itself.

If I understand Mike correctly this time, he's just concerned with the UI, not the image. In his case 100% is too small, but 200% to big. With a 28" unit at standard 4K resolution, that's a valid point.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 06, 2016 Apr 06, 2016

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I've downloaded the 30 day trial of Photoshop CC which also loads Lightroom. Both these now have a sensible UI size by default but Bridge CC still has this problem so I'm not sure whether it's worth paying monthly for a package that offers only half an improvement over CS6. Does anybody know how to get Bridge CC to have a sensible UI size?

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Community Beginner ,
May 28, 2016 May 28, 2016

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I use this trick on my CS6 and it works quite well Adobe App Scaling on High DPI Displays (FIX) « Dan Antonielli

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New Here ,
Sep 12, 2019 Sep 12, 2019

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They wany your subscription money

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New Here ,
May 02, 2016 May 02, 2016

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I'm using CS5 and I don't see the Experimental menu option. What are my options to fix this issue?

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Mentor ,
May 02, 2016 May 02, 2016

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Hi

Your best bet is upgrading to latest PS CC 2015.1.2 version.

If there is a Hack, I won't publicize it here.

Pierre

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Community Expert ,
May 02, 2016 May 02, 2016

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ChrisBaltazar wrote:

I'm using CS5 and I don't see the Experimental menu option. What are my options to fix this issue?

What was state of the art display situation when CS5 came out in 2010.  1920x1200 was probably the highest resolution back then, and I certainly don't remember any complaints regarding using Photoshop on such a display. 

Out of interest, I just tried making a custom workspace that puts everything onto a second screen, and the image window on the main (high res) screen.  Photoshop remembers the settings after a restart, but places new documents on the second screen, so you have to drag back to the big screen with every single document.  Plus things like tabbed documents would not work.  It was a bit clunky judging from my quick experiment, but you _might_ be able to organise things so such a set up was usable, and adapt a workflow that didn't drive you crazy with frustration.

Or just get a CC subscription.  $10 a month is such a paltry amount, and for such an extraordinary application, it feels ridiculous to argue against it.

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New Here ,
May 13, 2016 May 13, 2016

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I must be missing something.  I recently upgraded to CC and have a screen with 3840x2160 resolution.  All of my adobe programs the font is tiny!  In Bridge the font and thumbnails are miniscule, impossible to read.  I have searched for the experimental feature to change UI to 200% but I can't seem to find it on the most recent download of Creative Cloud.  Searching for someway to make the program readable or it won't be of any use. 

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Community Expert ,
May 13, 2016 May 13, 2016

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In Photoshop CC 2014 and 2015, the UI scaling is under Edit > Preferences > Interface.

There is currently no such option in Bridge.

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May 13, 2016 May 13, 2016

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Any options to make bridge remotely usable?  The wording on the menus all overlaps and thumbnails are so tiny, if there isn't an interface change what can be done?

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May 23, 2016 May 23, 2016

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not helpful

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May 23, 2016 May 23, 2016

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did it but now its way to big

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May 23, 2016 May 23, 2016

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You can ask the author if there is some middle ground. Another would be to return it to normal and adjust your screen resolution down.

Bridge CC is an older (2013) product and the team didn't get around to planning this out with Microsoft. at this point, not much any of us here in the user-support forums can do. We are not privy to nor do we tell Adobe what to do.

Gene

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Jan 08, 2017 Jan 08, 2017

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The bottom line is Adobe does not care about CS4, CS5 of CS6 owners any more and how much they spent on these expensive suites. They have no interest in making the owners of these expensive suites happy. They are a Cloud Based Software company now, except for Elements, and I do not believe, even Elements 15, has the experimental 200% feature. Dan's fix is the closest attempt, but it has drawbacks, and does not work readily on CS5 or CS4 only CS6. Other software has this same problem with 4K and it has been noted earlier that this is also a Windows problem as well as a Mac problem. Amazingly Acrobat has no problem wit 4K but all Adobe Apps do. Interestingly, the Blue competition for Acrobat has no problem with 4K but Photoshop which has little competition, as more users prefer it over other options it has the 4K problem. Don't you all think that someone that is trying to adjust the quality of a graphic to the optimum, would want the least amount pixels they could get in their work monitor, IE 4K?

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Jan 08, 2017 Jan 08, 2017

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Obsolete software is never updated, not by any company - with the two sole exceptions of Microsoft and Apple. They have to, for security reasons.

Aside from that, 4K is a display property. It's a new display technology. It has nothing to do with Photoshop or any other software as such. What the software can do is provide workarounds so that both display technologies are usable.

When CS4/5/6 were made, nobody knew what 4K was.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 09, 2017 Jan 09, 2017

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D Fosse wrote:

Aside from that, 4K is a display property. It's a new display technology.

When does 4K displays become old technology?  4K computer displays have been marketed for 16 years and now there are 5K and 8K displays being marketed. The problem is not related to the number of pixels a display has it is relayed to the resolution of the displays the display's pixel density.   For many years all computer display resolution had a pixel density in the range of 85dpi to 100dpi and operating systems developed desktop User interfaces for displays with those resolutions as did applications.   The problem is today there are displays with much higher resolution.  Displays are manufactured with a fixed sized pixels.  Every pixel displayed  is displayed with the display's fixed sized pixel. Today a display may manufactured with a 85dpi resolution or with a resolution way over 300DPI.  They need to be able to display image rapidly in real time there no time to change resolution (pixel size). You not going to be able to watch a video on an inkjet printer that can display image at different resolutions. It takes the too much time to render the images.

So a User Interfaces developed for displays with a 100dpi resolution will display 1/4 the 100dpi  size when displayed on a display with 200dpi resolution and 1/9 the size when displayed on a display with a 300dpi resolution and 1/16 the size on a 400dpi display. Photoshop Zooms you image view by quickly scaling your image to a different size image.  You only view your image actual pixels when you  view your image zoomed to 100% and the pixels you see are at the displays resolution.  If you image had more pixels then the display can display you will only see part of you image you will need to pan to see all of your images.

OS like windows developed display scaling. A user can choose to scale what is displayed  by application to a lower resolution than the display has.  Windows preset a display with fewer pixels to the application then display actually has for the application to use. When the application displays anything windows scales the image size up in size and display these pixels on your display.  However, Application can be coded with a manifest that instructs the OS not to scale what it displays. That the application will handle the display. So Windows presents to the application the number of pixels the display has and will not scale whet the application displays.  This is what Photoshop does.  You can not use Window scaling for Photoshop unless you modify your Windows  registry to use external manifest files when thye exist and add and external manifest  file for Photoshop.   Adobe Photoshop CC provides a Preference to allow users to scale its UI 2X however there are issues with Photoshop UI scaling.

JJMack

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