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April 17, 2019
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image size and 300 dpi resolution

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Hi guys!

Using PH CS4

These are the steps I use for editing the images I then print on my Epson 400 printer, on canvas.

After I chose the images I need, I open them and crop them at 305/403 mm, the resolution setting is 300 dpi , it appears right next to the Height/Width.

I then make small retouches and save the file as JPEG image, using CTRL S command.

After editing all the images, I open Adobe Bridge and print my images from there. Bridge automatically saves images into PDFs and sends them to the printer, after I chose the image size according to the dimensions of my canvas.

My printer got broken few days back and asked one of my friends to print my images. They say they need to redimension the images, as the images don`t have 300 dpi. When I right click on one of them, at Details tab I see:  3602x4760 dimension and only 240 resolution. What happened? Did I do something wrong??

Please help, there are a loooot of images, and .. does he need to re-crop etc all of them  ?

Thank you so much

Cristina

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    Community Expert
    April 17, 2019

    240 dpi is more than enough to print on a printer or a substrate that may not support them.

    Byron.
    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 17, 2019

    All you need to worry about is pixel dimensions - so many pixels wide x so many pixels high. That's your file. As long as you don't resample the file, it's the same.

    Ppi, pixels per inch, is probably the most misunderstood concept in all of digital photography. It's actually very simple, there's no magic to it. Just read it literally: pixels per inch. Say it out loud to yourself: pixels per inch.

    So you have your pixels in the file, a certain number of them. That's your image. Now, how many of them do you want to cram into one inch of paper? Do the math. The denser you print those pixels, the smaller the image is on paper.

    To get a good print, a certain pixel density is recommended. It doesn't have to be 300, there's nothing special about that number. It depends entirely on the viewing distance. The bigger it is, the farther away you will stand to take it all in. So ppi requirement drops with increased viewing distance.

    Stephen Marsh
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    Community Expert
    April 17, 2019

    Just adding to this post:

    To get a good print, a certain pixel density is recommended. It doesn't have to be 300, there's nothing special about that number.

    For those that are wondering why “300 ppi” is often requested… It is due to historical practices in file prep for offset/lithographic printing. A good rule of thumb was always to use a source PPI value at final print size that was roughly x1.5-2 times the value of the halftone screen being used for printing. A 150 lpi (lines per inch) halftone screen was quite common, so 2 x 150 lpi = 300 ppi. It depends on image content though, quite acceptable results could be gained with a 225 ppi (x1.5) file when used for a 150 lpi halftone screen. Having the file at 300 ppi rather than 225 ppi simply allows for a little bit of leeway.

    There are of course other “magic numbers” from other historical computer and digital imaging sources that are often repeated and enforced with the fervent of religious mantra: 72 ppi, 96 ppi, 240 ppi, 360 ppi etc.

    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 18, 2019

    For those of us that use Photoshop raster files for other methods, we may see things from a different perspective.

    In apparel art, Raster is widely used. Almost as much as vector. Add to that, once a color separation of your raster file is printed to film or a DTS (Direct to Screen) printer, it must be RIPped.  (sent through a Raster Image Processor).  This RIP converts the Digital pixel file into halftones, unlike digital printers to paper.

    We might get caught up in the PPI to LPI to DPI discussion, but when you have solid line art painted brush inkings or type with solid edges, The solid art (in addition to that airbrush, Photo illustrated look, you will get horrible image quality results once it is ripped to halftone. Your "type" will be blurred, your paint brush inking will be fuzzy, and you will not get a good clean color separation from a file like that.

    You will want a very high file resolution but no higher than your printer will print at. Yes, It's typical (in offset), that most work with will be 300ppi.  It's been the long (go to).  I use 600ppi. Most of you know, as you type out a letter S, This should look solid, not fuzzy or antialiased. With Antialiasing turned off on type, it is created using the individual pixels. When it is solid, you see the stair stepped pixel of the resolution. Compare extreme examples of 72ppi (web) solid type and 600ppi solid type.  The 600 is far cleaner, smoother, with smaller pixels. This translates into a better reproduction of film exposure on the screen mesh stencil, easier washout, and a more accurate image reproduction of a dot onto the shirt. This then represents that color tone (more accurately) and raster type looks like it should and you don't see the jaggies.


    Yes, the discussion above applies to photographic images. That's where we get most of the questions about resolution.

    JohanElzenga
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    April 17, 2019

    PPI (not DPI) is pretty meaningless, even when printing because modern printer drivers will automatically correct for it if you define the print size. The only thing that matters is the dimensions in pixels. 305mm @ 300 ppi = 300 x 305 / 25.4 = 3062 pixels, so your images have the correct size for printing. Your friend should simply ignore that 240 ppi and select the correct dimensions in mm, then the printer driver will automatically use 300 ppi.

    -- Johan W. Elzenga
    Legend
    April 17, 2019

    Resolution and DPI are not the same thing,

    May i ask why you need 300 dpi? I think 96 DPI would be fine, unless your intended audience are using magnifier glass to inspect your artwork?

    ionita_cnAuthor
    Participant
    April 17, 2019

    Mm.. I print portraits on canvas. Apart from 30x40 cm size , I also print a

    42x57 size. I think the details in the iris or the ones from a curled hair

    look nice when there are more pixels. I must agree I am new working in PH.

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