Exit
  • Global community
    • Language:
      • Deutsch
      • English
      • Español
      • Français
      • Português
  • 日本語コミュニティ
    Dedicated community for Japanese speakers
  • 한국 커뮤니티
    Dedicated community for Korean speakers
0

Is it normal that the zoom level (or flatten the image) changes the brightness?

Enthusiast ,
Mar 23, 2025 Mar 23, 2025

When zooming in my image gets brighter, but it should stay the same as I edited it at 100%

 

34.6% and lower

Wurstkrapfen_2-1742750730460.pngexpand image

 

31,5 and higher

Wurstkrapfen_3-1742750754031.pngexpand image

 

Same happens when I "flatten the image" then I don't need to change the zoom level. What's going on? I need consistency.

 

The effect shows less on the screenshot, it's more noticeable in reality.

TOPICS
Windows
103
Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Adobe
Community Expert ,
Mar 23, 2025 Mar 23, 2025

Whenever something seems to change when merging layers, it's because you are not viewing at 100%. The merged result is correct. The preview is misleading and incorrect.

100% has nothing to do with size. It means one image pixel is represented by exactly one physical screen pixel.

For performance reasons, all blending and adjustment previews are calculated on the on-screen version of the image. When you are zoomed out, that means a resampled and softened version of the image. Pixel levels are averaged out. You get a lot of intermediate values that aren't there in the full original data.

When you merge, commit an adjustment etc, the numbers are re-calculated on the full original data, pixel for pixel.

Viewing at 100% avoids all this and renders the whole issue moot. You see every pixel before and after, and so nothing changes.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Enthusiast ,
Mar 23, 2025 Mar 23, 2025

Even on a 4k screen working 50MP files in 100% to dial in settings is what I would call a "not optimal working situation", usually I would like to see the whole image when doing so and would expect it to be represented accuratly.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Mar 23, 2025 Mar 23, 2025

Yes, you do have a point - but to be realistic, there is no such thing as "accurate" below 100%. Pixels have to be resampled on screen, there is no avoiding that. A group of pixels have to be reduced to 1 single pixel.

 

Where I do agree with you, and this has been requested many times, is to give us an option to do all preview calculations on the full pixel data instead of the screen sample. The answer we usually get is that this would slow Photoshop down unacceptably. That is probably true, it most likely would - but if it was an option with all implications clearly stated, and it was a one-off, non-sticky setting, I don't see why not.

 

Many versions ago it was possible to do this by setting cache levels to 1 in Preferences. That is no longer possible.

 

In a "normal" photograph this isn't a problem. This happens with very noisy or binary data where you have sharp pixel-level transitions. It's these transitions that are averaged out to middle values that aren't really there in the data.

 

In practice, I live quite well with this, but it's important to understand what's happening and why it's happening.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Enthusiast ,
Mar 23, 2025 Mar 23, 2025

I just noticed this recently, I don't think it always behaved like this. But yes I mostly notice this in high ISO images.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Mar 23, 2025 Mar 23, 2025

It has always been like this. But as I said, you only notice it on a certain type of images.

 

BTW - this isn't a bug, it's normal behavior (irrespective of whether one thinks it's desirable). Can a moderator move this to "Discussions"?

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2025 Mar 24, 2025
Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
New Here ,
Mar 24, 2025 Mar 24, 2025

Sounds like a color management or display rendering issue. Check if your image editor is using the correct color profile and try disabling any GPU acceleration to see if that makes a difference. Also, test the image in a different viewer to confirm if it’s a software-specific issue.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Mar 24, 2025 Mar 24, 2025
LATEST

I don't think this is about color management. The way the OP describes it is entirely consistent with preview rendering at less than 100% view, on a very noisy image. This effect is well defined and well documented.

Translate
Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines