is there a way to have in the dodge/burn tool the flow like the brush tool?

[JohnVo]

hi

i run photoshop cc (from the last version to cc 2015 "in short i have several version installed on my computer) , under windows 10 and osx high sierra

is there a way to have a flow feature in the dogde/burn tool (like the brush tool) ?

i know i can create dodge and and burn tools presets and under the dodge/burn bar i have the toggle the brush panel

i would like to use the dodge and brun tool with my laser and high dpi mouse and wacom pen and have a " Flow" feature

in short i would like to  keep pressed the mouse button (or the wacom pen) and keep to burn or dodge the image

can i do it?

i have searched around the forum but haven't found an answer

How to change the flow in the Dodge & Burn tool?

thanks

[Norman Sanders]

There is a way to Dodge and Burn using the Brush tool with its features.  It has the added benefit of putting the Dodge and Burn on a separate layer where it can be edited repeatedly without corrupting the original image. Here is how to do it. (It takes longer to describe than to do.)

1. Load a file to be retouched and add a blank layer.

2. Choose Edit > Fill and from the double-arrow options of the Use field, choose 50% gray. Then click OK. The image area will become gray overall.

3. Change the Blending mode in the Layers panel from Normal to Overlay. The Background image will return although you will be working on 50% gray layer.

4. Do not use the Dodge and Burn tools. Choose the Brush tool.

5. Painting in white will Dodge (lighten) the area, Black will Burn (darken) the area. Strike the D key to place Black as the Foreground color and White as the Background color. To transpose them strike the X key.  Although the image will reflect the changes, they are being recorded on the 50% gray layer.

Your brushwork my be viewed by turning off the eye in the Background layer. Best of all: to undo any tone adjustment and return the area to its original value at. any time. now and in the future, simply return that area to 50% by cloning from an adjacent unretouched area of the 50% gray layer.

[JohnVo]

hi

yes i use this

but i would like a brush that let me click once and keep clicking (not click several/many times the mouse) and increse the color

in short i would love to  have a brush that when i click start to paint with  a very light gray(black) and keeping the mouse pressed it become gradually black

i guess the best is have brush with these settings the flow set to 10 + airbrush style built up effect

is there a way to controll to slower or faster the flow feature?  i mean i keep clicking and the brush paints faster or slower the black

i have done what do you have suggested above

3. Change the Blending mode in the Layers panel from Normal to Overlay. The Background image will return although you will be working on 50% gray layer.

4. Do not use the Dodge and Burn tools. Choose the Brush tool.

5. Painting in white will Dodge (lighten) the area, Black will Burn (darken) the area. Strike the D key to place Black as the Foreground color and White as the Background color. To transpose them strike the X key.  Although the image will reflect the changes, they are being recorded on the 50% gray layer.

ok my english is really very poor

my goal is click my mouse for example (i have selected black color ) , keep the mouse button down and let the brush slowly paint the layer with black , but gradually

i have setup flow 10% + airbrush style built up effect , but can i slow down the flow ?

where is the setting that let me gradually paint in black ?

thanks

ps i like the dogde/burn tools when i work with lumonicity maskes

[Norman Sanders]

I suggest that you look into the features offered by using a Wacom (or similar) tablet and pressure sensitive stylus.

[josephlavine]

It sounds as though you are looking for something that is pressure sensitive such as a Wacom tablet.

[JohnVo]

hi

i have it

but sometime i use the mouse very exansive and with a very high dpi

i would like to have such feature with the mouse too

thanks

[Jon-M-Spear]

So this is nothing about the dodge/burn tool at all.  It's about pressure sensitive mice!

[JohnVo]

hi

but is there a way to tweak the mouse/mice pressure sensitive?

thanks

[Trevor.Dennis]

norman.sanders  wrote

There is a way to Dodge and Burn using the Brush tool with its features.  It has the added benefit of putting the Dodge and Burn on a separate layer where it can be edited repeatedly without corrupting the original image. Here is how to do it. (It takes longer to describe than to do.)

1. Load a file to be retouched and add a blank layer.

2. Choose Edit > Fill and from the double-arrow options of the Use field, choose 50% gray. Then click OK. The image area will become gray overall.

3. Change the Blending mode in the Layers panel from Normal to Overlay. The Background image will return although you will be working on 50% gray layer.

4. Do not use the Dodge and Burn tools. Choose the Brush tool.

5. Painting in white will Dodge (lighten) the area, Black will Burn (darken) the area. Strike the D key to place Black as the Foreground color and White as the Background color. To transpose them strike the X key.  Although the image will reflect the changes, they are being recorded on the 50% gray layer.

Your brushwork my be viewed by turning off the eye in the Background layer. Best of all: to undo any tone adjustment and return the area to its original value at. any time. now and in the future, simply return that area to 50% by cloning from an adjacent unretouched area of the 50% gray layer.

Woah there Norman.   It makes me cringe when folk think like a photographer, and sell two of Photoshop's most useful tools short.

This is Dodge & Burn

And this with a 50% grey layer set to Overlay with 50% opacity black and then white strokes.

OK you can darken or brighten areas universally, but if just want to do that I'll use curves or maybe even levels.  Being able to target tonal  ranges  with the D&B tools not only gives me control of which  pixels will and will not be affected, but also affects saturation differently according to what tonal range the tools are set to, and where particular pixels fall in the tonal range.  This is a powerful tool no digital artist or illustrator should be without, and even useful to folk who just use Photoshop to tart up a few photographs!  

And you can still use D&B non-destructively by copy merging layers and using layer masks.  You can also use 50%  grey layers in conjunction with luminosity masks,  but  you'd need a bunch of layers and masks, and heaps more time.  

For what it is worth, years and years ago I used to feel smug using 50% grey layers, but I was put straight by some of Bert Monroy's Pixel Perfect tutorials.   I 'think' you can still access the Pixel Perfect videos without a subscription, but there is certainly no problem for anyone  with an orange badge.

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[JohnVo]

hi

but it's incredible this forum

i just asked how setup my brush for controll the flow , to slow or fast it with my mouse or wacom pen

and i can't get an asnwer

i just would love to know how can i tweak my brush to flow black slowly with my mouse , just click and let photoshop flow slowly with black to have a better cotroll

thanks

[Jon-M-Spear]

You've already had your answer.  You can't.  That's what Wacom tablets are for.

[davescm]

Your question was answered earlier in post 1. Use a 50% grey layer set to overlay and an ordinary brush.

To control the brush set the airbrush to on (i.e. build up on)  and flow to pen pressure

Then use your tablet and pen

Dave

[JohnVo]

hi

well i get it now , with the mouse it's impossbile to slow or fast the flow

thanks

[JohnVo]

hi Travor

i agree about the dogde & burn tools , sorry i have not read your post carefull ,can you controll the flow with dogde/burn tool?

thank