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[Locked] Please, Can't We Just Continue To Purchase Photoshop, not CC, Adobe?

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March 1, 2014
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Please, could we just continue to purchase our programs, Adobe?

I cannot go along with the Creative Cloud only option. Although Adobe is offering great "discounts" on the Creative Cloud versions, they will absolutely raise the price each year. (That is clearly stated in their "Terms.") Adobe's "special discount introductory offer" goes to the "current price" after the first year. The $9.99 / month special offer becomes $19.99 or $29.99 after a year (or much more - it is completely at Adobe's discretion how high it goes).

I do not want or need the Cloud, Storage, or Collaborative "features" that are the hallmark of the CC releases. I am pleased to wait for a year for new features. (Updates for bug fixes should not be delayed, however.)

This is just like the cable and satellite TV companies, they surreptitiously raise the monthly price, until you are paying INSANE amounts.

Like Woody Allen said (my paraphrasing, sorry):

"If you put a frog into a pot of cold water and slowly bring it to a boil, he will just sit there and boil - because the discomfort change is so slow, he'll hardly notice it, until he is thoroughly cooked!"

Adobe wants us to be that frog.

And once we have all signed up and are comfortable in our plan, Adobe wants us to forget that we are (almost invisibly to us) paying each month - while the price goes up and up each year.

I just read about a student who signed up last year for the "introductory" CC pricing for students, and now his price is going up to $29.99 per month, after just one year. And where does it stop? Do you think it stops at $29.99?

(Quick math solution: $29.99 X 12 = $359.88 PER YEAR, EVERY YEAR! And this is not capped, so the upward monthly price is unlimited!)

Although I love the products, I don't want to pay another gouging cable or satellite company!

Thanks for listening.

And Adobe, could you please, please continue to offer our "old-style" purchasing of new versions of Photoshop?

I will not join the 'Cloud.'

Please join Me.

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Correct answer Nancy OShea

As of January 2017, Adobe officially stopped selling Creative Suite software.

If you want Photoshop, you have to subscribe to a Creative Cloud Plan.

The Photography Plan ( PS + Lightroom bundle) is currently USD $9.99/month (paid monthly for 1 year).

Other plan options are also available.

Creative Cloud pricing and membership plans | Adobe Creative Cloud

Nancy

Nancy OShea

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As of January 2017, Adobe officially stopped selling Creative Suite software.

If you want Photoshop, you have to subscribe to a Creative Cloud Plan.

The Photography Plan ( PS + Lightroom bundle) is currently USD $9.99/month (paid monthly for 1 year).

Other plan options are also available.

Creative Cloud pricing and membership plans | Adobe Creative Cloud

Nancy

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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MacGregg

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i won't buy PS or any adobe product again, he11 with them!!!!!!!!!!

Nancy OShea

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You can still buy Photoshop Elements. No subscription required.

Picture editor software, photo enhancement tools | Adobe Photoshop Elements 15

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Ends September 4th 2017

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Nancy

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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martinex57

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What Adobe has done is guaranteed that I will never use this product again. It's a shame. It really was excellent.

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oliviab31572648

Participant

well i can see where you're coming from but i got screwed out of a month to month plan when all they had available was a yearly and now 6 months and i am trying to cancel and will have to pay a $60 cancellation fee!!! WTF ADOBE NOT COOL. Tell us up front and NOT in fine print that there is a cancellation fee big and bold on checkout screen not in the middle of the terms and condition because no one ever freaking reads that. mark me as one VERY UNHAPPY CUSTOMER.

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Test Screen Name

Legend

Surely that's not really a cancellation fee, it's just paying for the year you signed up for. Paying monthly is - what - 50% dearer? Clearly the annual plan is cheaper because you promise to pay for the whole year. Or do it seems to me. Maybe it isn't clear at all.

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paulaj71267751

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I agree. I am an old timer and started working/digital painting with Photoshop in 1994! If anybody out there has a copy of "Micro Publishing News" published in Northern California 1994 my artwork is in there LOL! I want to be able to buy a basic version of Photoshop in a BOX. Call me Old Fashioned! I'm now 60 living on a Senior Pension and I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY A FORTUNE to rent it by the month in the cloud. Grrrr! Is there no end to wealthy companies trying to rip people off?!!!! If I can't buy Photoshop in a box then I will look for another software that does similar things that is available to buy in a physical box. I'd be sad to part ways with Photoshop but I can't do the rent by the month in the cloud thing. SORRY!

cgrscott

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I don’t subscribe to Creative Cloud. Adobe CS6 seems to be the last perpetual license for Adobe products that I’ll ever own.

I’m running a 2009 Quad-core Mac Pro and a 2009 15” Macbook Pro so, I have the CS6 64-bit memory compatibility, with my six-year-old Macs. I’m not going to have much incentive to upgrade my hardware since my Adobe software migration is at a stand still. Maybe someday I’ll need to replace my hardware as it fails with age.

Mac OS 10.10x Yosemite has been a nice upgrade these last 12 months. Perhaps OS 10.11 El Capitan‎ will provide poor compatibility with my aging CS6 apps.

The up and coming generation of creative pros is the big customer for renting CC. Artists in their 20s and 30s don't find $49.95 per month to be large expense, since paying $69.95 per month for a smart phone plan is no big deal to them. I'm 54 so, I still see the world through 1990s economics. I have become as intransigent as my older creative associates who, back in the 2002, would never migrate away from Quark Xpress or Ventura Publisher for the state-of-the-art InDesign CS.

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JasAnge

Participant

I am only a personal user. I don't use photoshop professionally, though I know a number of people who do, I originally purchased Photoshop outright. Since then, I have changed platforms, PC to Mac, my PC crapped itself and is beyond redemption, and asked Adobe about changing over to the new system. I was told that, as my purchase was more than 12 months old, I would have to purchase photoshop outright again for my new mac. Ok, I kind of get that, but I thought that I might get a discount as an existing customer, nope.

Now, when I go to look at buying it outright again, I need to pay for it month by month. Even if I start at $10 a month (photoshop only), I'm locked into a contract for a year, then if I want to continue using it, I need to pay for it, year after year. I'm sorry, I don't need it enough to warrant paying for it that much.

So, here I am, I own photoshop as a program, I apparently made the mistake of changing computer systems and now I can either buy a crap cheap PC to run the CS that I still 'own', or, pay month by month for a program that I will only use rarely, or say goodbye to Adobe.

Looks, like bye bye Adobe. A shame really, I love using the program too.

War Unicorn

Community Expert

People need to get over this idea that they own the software. Whether it's subscription or "perpetual" (as in, "until it doesn't work anymore due to OS upgrades"), you are paying for a license to use the software and that's it. This has been the standard license model for every vendor since time immemorial.

It doesn't need to be said that paying $120 USD per year for full-on Photoshop (that's the entire kit and kaboodle, 3D included that used to be in the Extended version) is an outright steal (at least for photographers and creatives; I can't speak for those that need, say, Illustrator). We can thank Thomas Knoll for all that. He actually pulled strings at Adobe to get the sub cost lowered for Photoshop because he thought it was a bit much (and that's mostly true for those of us who are enthusiasts). So Adobe cut a deal where they'd have a special limited-time offer. It became permanent when it was clear that it made them a ton of money.

For the price you pay per year, you'd have to pay for at least eight years just to equal what you would pay outright for CS6 Extended. By then, Photoshop CC would already be light years ahead of it. (Not just in terms of new features; also performance.)

As an aside, other vendors are getting into the subscription model. Autodesk is doing it with their SketchBook Pro app. They still have a perpetual license, but the writing's on the wall there; you don't get the "new features" support that the sub license has other than technical support. (It sounds a lot like how CS6 is working right now. It gets no new features that CC gets but it's still being supported in the technical field.) Microsoft is doing the same thing for Office.

I could probably wax poetic about the other image editors but I don't want to make this post too long. (e.g., Somebody tell Corel they can try to be Adobe but they're not Adobe where Photoshop's concerned. Learn to make a UI that doesn't make me want to punch a baby in the face.)

Benjamin Root

Legend

P.S. Anything I buy has to be for the PC not the Mac. Reason is that my husband hates Macintosh computers. I don't know he does. He just does. Since he is the one buying the computer and I am just "The Wife" I have to go along with it. Such is life! LOL!

‌Yes, Photoshop Elements is worth looking into. $99 USD gets you a perpetual version of it (serial number; works as long as your computer supports it). It also comes with a basic verson of Camera Raw. Give it a try for 30 days and see if it will work for you.

Another suggestion. Get a one-year prepaid card from an authorized reseller for the Photography Plan. You'll be good for a year and you can opt out of entering a credit card for auto renewal.

If you were only to consider Photoshop, it would take over 8 years for the Photography plan to reach the old $1,000 price tag. Chances are, you'd have to upgrade by that time anyway. And after 8 years, you likely wouldn't get a deal for upgrading. So $1,000 again. With the Photography plan comes Lightroom as well as free upgrades.

Anyway, a few options for you.

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renishasandrin

Participant

I have an interest in digital photography and checked out Adobe Photoshop today. I wanted to know how much it was going to be as a program as I know editing software isn't cheap. I noticed it never said anywhere how much it was on the official Adobe webpage and when I went to purchase it I kept getting this Creative Cloud subscription page - which again doesn't answer my question. I would have really liked to have just bypassed that page altogether and just found out the information I wanted. As a potential new user of the program - I don't know if I will even want the subscription plan even if I love the software - I prefer to buy things outright with no further financial strings attached. In the end, I just figured "forget it" then went to the Future Shop homepage and did a search for Adobe Photoshop and found the price immediately.

I am sure that the Creative Cloud subscription plan is awesome. But as a new user just learning the software I would like to know about that first rather than all these cool add-ons that will cost me so much a month. Just let me buy the software without all those frills. Then if I choose to want them later I can subscribe and stay updated.

That seems to me an ideal solution - put in a "No thanks, proceed to check-out" option.

Herbert2001

Inspiring

renishasandrin wrote:

I am sure that the Creative Cloud subscription plan is awesome. But as a new user just learning the software I would like to know about that first rather than all these cool add-ons that will cost me so much a month. Just let me buy the software without all those frills. Then if I choose to want them later I can subscribe and stay updated.

That seems to me an ideal solution - put in a "No thanks, proceed to check-out" option.

It's not such an awesome plan for everyone. Many (most?) are against a "rent forever", and given the choice, would opt for out-right purchase of the applications. But that is no longer an option (CS6 being a red herring here).

renishasandrin wrote:

I have an interest in digital photography and checked out Adobe Photoshop today. I wanted to know how much it was going to be as a program as I know editing software isn't cheap.

That seems to me an ideal solution - put in a "No thanks, proceed to check-out" option.

Professional digital photography editing software can actually be very, very affordable. There are alternatives that do an arguably equal or even better job than Adobe's software for digital photo editing. There exist many open source (free) options as well, and a combination of these with affordable commercial alternatives will give you the same possibilities.

Spend some time researching the alternatives - it may save you hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars. And you will actually own the software, rather than rent it.

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jaxjoseph158

Participant

As an undergraduate student about to complete his last semester, I have only this to say:

Before the change in business model, it was a foregone conclusion in my mind that I would finally buy Photoshop once I got out into the real world. In fact, I was even about to cave and buy it today until I realized just how much things have changed.

There is security in being able to say that you have paid for something and now own it contractually. I do not want the hassle of having to monitor and calculate the effect of monthly payments. I do not even believe this will be a better deal in the long run.

If this is how it has to be, then I agree with some of the people who posted here. I will seriously look into Photoshop's competitors before I even think about purchasing from Adobe. At best, they are going to get a free trial or two out of me so that I have the experience I need to make that kind of comparison.

Also, I think Creative Cloud is a little tacky overall. But I digress.

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yatessim

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we must stand up to this now . its a slippery slope if we don't. I will now look else where for software I can buy even if its not as good. we are the customers and we have spoken.

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