• Global community
    • Language:
      • Deutsch
      • English
      • Español
      • Français
      • Português
  • 日本語コミュニティ
    Dedicated community for Japanese speakers
  • 한국 커뮤니티
    Dedicated community for Korean speakers
Exit
4

Need new graphics card

Community Beginner ,
Oct 17, 2023 Oct 17, 2023

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

I run Photoshop, Lightroom, and Premier Pro on Windows 11.  I have to replace my current gaming graphics card which has 4 Gb memory.  This is the recommended amount in your specs.  However, do the new AI features require or benefit from having more memory such as 8 Gb?  Does the graphics card do the AI processing?

 

Thanks.

TOPICS
Windows

Views

2.4K

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Adobe
Community Expert ,
Oct 17, 2023 Oct 17, 2023

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

If you get an RTX 4060 or 4070 you can't go wrong. They come with either 12 or 16 GB. That should be able to handle anything in Adobe apps for the foreseeable future.

 

Some of the new AI-based functions, like Denoise, run entirely in the GPU without touching the CPU. Adobe recommend a minimum of 8GB for Denoise, although I've never actually seen it use that much. It may be just a nicer way to say that you need a fairly recent model. The breakpoint seems to be Nvidia's shift from the GTX to the RTX designation.

 

For general processing, especially in Lightroom, VRAM usage may go up to 70-80% of whatever is available. I assume some sort of caching is going on there. I've often seen it stabilize at around 10 GB on a 16 GB card.

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Oct 17, 2023 Oct 17, 2023

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

"However, do the new AI features require or benefit from having more memory such as 8 Gb? Does the graphics card do the AI processing?"

 

I think you can test on your own. Run app of your choice, open Task Manager > Performance tab and monitor what is happening while working as usual. That will tell you whether you really need more GPU memory or not. If Dedicated GPU memory is filling quickly and often then you need more GPU RAM, if not...

performance tab.jpg

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

I tried the brand new AI-powered Lens Blur in Lightroom, and my - that really put everything to work.

 

Granted, this was a 60MP file from an a7r V, and a fairly complex image at that, but still. This, I think, is the most machine resources used that I've ever seen:

lens_blur.png

 

Not only is VRAM maxed at 16 GB, it also starts using a couple of GB shared system memory. Never seen that before.

 

The math itself is mainly CPU here. Again, I don't think I have ever seen the CPU (i7-9700K in this case) maxed out this completely for this long.

 

Clearly, we have interesting times ahead.

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

First of all, you need to check what video cards your motherboard will work with.  Or you might need to update the video card firmware to work with more recent GPUs.   There's no point in going crazy with GPU specs if the rest of the system does not match it in perfprmance.   If you are notr sure what your current system specs are, apps like Speccy will tell you. 

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines
Community Expert ,
Oct 18, 2023 Oct 18, 2023

Copy link to clipboard

Copied

LATEST

That's right. The RTX 4060 Ti used above operates natively at PCIe 4.0, but the motherboard only supports PCIe 3.0. So that limits bandwidth and speed. But it works.

 

There also has to be physical room with nothing getting in the way, enough space for ventilation, and your power supply needs to deliver the watts and have the necessary PCIe power outlets.

Votes

Translate

Translate

Report

Report
Community guidelines
Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. Learn more
community guidelines