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Photoshop not saving files under 4G

Contributor ,
Jun 05, 2018 Jun 05, 2018

I have a file that is 1.7G. I get the message on the attached screen shot that says PS cannot save the document because its exceeds 4G which it does not.

This happens frequently. Why and how to save the document as a TIF.Screen Shot 2018-06-05 at 9.47.36 PM.png

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Community Expert , Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

Open the smart object(s)  and see the size of the opened psb file. You will need to add that to your 1.7G

If you have nested SOs you have to repeat and drill down through them adding at each stage. The total file size  is all the SOs plus the main file - although file compression means that the space taken on disk may be smaller

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LEGEND ,
Jun 05, 2018 Jun 05, 2018

What TIFF options do you use? Please show your TIFF options.

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Contributor ,
Jun 05, 2018 Jun 05, 2018

Not sure I understand what you are asking.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

Then that probably explains your problem. When you save as TIFF you can choose a number of options like compression. It is vital to make a proper selection, the default will not be right for everyone. They also make a big difference to file size.

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Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

This is the options I useScreen Shot 2018-06-06 at 9.55.39 AM.png

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Contributor ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

I understand tif's can be 4GB. So why would a 1.7G not be saved?

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Community Expert ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

As explained above 1.7G is not the total size of your file.  The Smart Object contents need to be added

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Contributor ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

I only have one.

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Community Expert ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

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I have a file that is 1.7G. I get the message on the attached screen shot that says PS cannot save the document because its exceeds 4G which it does not.

This happens frequently. Why and how to save the document as a TIF.

Your file contains at least one smart  (SOs) . There may be others as  I can't see your entire layers structure in the screenshot.

The 1.7G reported at the bottom of the frame treats SOs as a pixel layer the size of the master document and does not include the size of any documents inside the SO. However those SOs are also saved in the overall TIFF. That can increase the size considerably as the SO can contain large multi layered files.

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Contributor ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

I have one smart object. good to know how PS treats SO's.

If the image says its 1.75G, then how is PS calculating the file size in gigabytes so I will know what size file I have?

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Community Expert ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

Open the smart object(s)  and see the size of the opened psb file. You will need to add that to your 1.7G

If you have nested SOs you have to repeat and drill down through them adding at each stage. The total file size  is all the SOs plus the main file - although file compression means that the space taken on disk may be smaller

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LEGEND ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

No size given is ever the size of a file. That's not what the numbers are for - and they can't be because the size won't be known unless or until you save, will be different for each file format, and different for each setting.

I observe you are using uncompressed TIFF. This will be 2-3 times bigger than needed for no gain. Do you have a reason for this unusual setting?

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Contributor ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

I just use the default setting. If I compress the file can it be saved in LR Classic CC and then reopened in PS?

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LEGEND ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

Yes, use the ZIP option.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

But this seems a lot of trouble. Why not use the PSB or PSD file with Lightroom?

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Community Expert ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

At present PSB files are not supported in Lightroom (it is an ongoing request)

Lightroom: Support cataloging PSB files (files larger than 2 GB PSDs and 4 GB TIFFs) | Photoshop Fam...

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Contributor ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018

LR does not support PSB files

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LEGEND ,
Jun 06, 2018 Jun 06, 2018
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You seem to be right, sorry for the bad advice.

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