Photoshop Printer Settings - various problems

[Klaus5F8D]

Hello All,

I have a few issues with Photoshop Printing Settings, some of which never made sense - others changed for the worse lately. I hope I'm explaining myself clearly enough:

- Printing Settings used to remember the last settting. Now I have to reset Media Type / Print Quality / change Epson sRGB to Adobe RGB ... every time.

Also paper size in the submenue always switches back to cm and a nonsensical default size in User defined (roll paper).

 I tried from printer & devices to set a default but it always switches back to its native default ... something I never use.

All this is under Settings.

I understand that I can save certain settings under a custom name, but why do I have to click these every time? What about the offer "Set Defaults"?

- Also - why do I have to reset every time in the main printing window "Photoshop Manages Colour" / Paper Profile / Rendering Intent? Is there a way to set a dafault there? 

I hope its not too confusing. All I know that a few years ago I never had to reset anything...?

Any input ... pointing out things that are not possible ... or me missunderstanding something ... is appreciated.

Thanks

(PS - lates version, all updated, Win11 latest, Epson P 7000 printer)

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Hi @Klaus5F8D it may be helpful to reset the print dialog box completely then set it back up to see if it holds. Hold the space bar when going to File>Print to reset it.

[Klaus5F8D]

Hi Kevin.

thanks for the reply.

I cleared all by holding space bar + Print.

I reset everything in setttings and outside to the point of "print" ... then cancelled everything.

Then I started a new print/same file ... settings are again back to default (not what I put in) ...??!!

To the suggestion below by NB:

OK - Final settings as in: Photoshop Manages Colors and Media profile ... must be set every time, unfortunately.

according to NB.

Otherwise I'll contact Epson and see what they say in regards to items in Settings...

I'll post the results.

Thanks

[NB, colourmanagement net]

@Klaus5F8D "

I cleared all by holding space bar + Print.

I reset everything in setttings and outside to the point of "print" ... then cancelled everything.

Then I started a new print/same file ... settings are again back to default (not what I put in) ...??!!

when you reset the print proccess does revert to defaults 

To the suggestion below by NB:

OK - Final settings as in: Photoshop Manages Colors and Media profile ... must be set every time, unfortunately.

according to NB.

that’s correct, per image.

Otherwise I'll contact Epson and see what they say in regards to items in Settings...

I'll post the results."

please do, if they offer any helpful tips

I hope this helps
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[NB, colourmanagement net · Accepted solution]

@Klaus5F8D Unfortunately all that stuff in Print Settings is within the printer manufacturer's software. So, in your case, it's an Epson issue. 

I'd recommend Photoshop Manages Color generally anyway - whats more then you don't have to mess with sRGB or Adobe RGB in those printer settings.

Selecting Photoshop Manages Color should grey out the colour management options in the driver settings.

why do I have to reset every time in the main printing window "Photoshop Manages Colour" / Paper Profile / Rendering Intent? Is there a way to set a dafault there? 

you do need to select the printer/media profile every time - that’s true, but the Rendering intent default can be set in Photoshop's Color Settings"

I hope this helps
neil barstow, colourmanagement net - adobe forum volunteer - co-author: 'getting colour right'
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[Klaus5F8D · Accepted solution]

Thanks for all your input.

It was not resolved completely ... in regards remembering last setting.

But I made presets in settings which now fills in everything in two clicks and since in the 

following window (Photoshop manages color / media settings) it must be set manually everytime anyways ... 

so ... I'm ok with that.

Rendering Intent was set in Preferences ... ok.

Thanks for now

[Klaus5F8D]

Amendment:

Just found out ... after putting in all settings for printing that perticular job / changing from strange "default" setting ... after print job is finished and when attempting to close the image ... the question pops up: "Save Changes Made?"

Even though no changes have been made to th actual image, say "YES" and close. 

It seems to save the print settings previously set for that image!!! 

I tried it a dozen times with various images ... "Save Changes" - YES and NO

Save Changes: Paper type, custom paper size, print quality in Settings are kept as when it was printed.

Even after, in the section under Color Management = Photoshop Manages Color, Paper Type, even Scale To Fit Media ...

all is still as it was set earlier.

So: Print Settings are saved for each individual image! ... not as a general default.

Hope I'm not just lucky and it stays that way!

Cheers

[NB, colourmanagement net]

@Klaus5F8D You're right that

"Print Settings are saved for each individual image! ... not as a general default.

Hope I'm not just lucky and it stays that way!"

This is saving the print settings per image as you wrote 

However, the print settings such as media etc should also be saveable as presets in the "print settings" dialogue. Sadly, Apple seem to have broken this for Photoshop in recent versions. The workaround is to make custom printer presets (of settings) in Apple Preview app, save and they are then visible in Photosho

I hope this helps
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[Marnix35001056qh80]

Hi,  this is so bad that Photoshop does not remember the print settings on windows.  Each time you have to re-select Photoshop manages colors (really?) and then the profile/rendering intent.  Why can they not just have it so it keep the settings.  why in the world would you want to print 1 design with Photoshop managing colors and then another design the printer.  For professional users this makes 0 sense.  It just wastes paper and ink and maybe that's what it's all about

[NB, colourmanagement net]

@Marnix35001056qh80 It might be helpful if the option for Photoshop Manages Colors or Printer Manages Colors was sticky as a default option, but not the ICC output profile, that could lead to some mistakes - horrid prints and wasted paper, if the user changed media .

I believe the rendering intent as set in color settings is the default option offered here. 

I hope this helps
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[Marnix35001056qh80]

Hi,  our customers are major Fashion houses in the world and they all complain about this.

They do not change paper.  They are setup with Large epson printers and use inhouse colors of Pantone colors.

There is only 1 way to print the colors in those designs correctly and the mistakes that designers keep making is forgetting to set those color management options over and over again in Photoshop.  This results is wated time/paper/stress.    I hope that Adobe realizes this.  For large professional organisations having a setting you can save or even destribute across multiple users is a must have.  

[NB, colourmanagement net]

@Marnix35001056qh80 I guess that’s a feature request for Adobe, then.

As an aside, if I'd done your installations, I'd not be replying on the rather basic Epson printer driver. Especially given that you want Pantone matching I'd have used a sophisticated RIP software to drive the printers.

In such applications settings can be locked down. 

I hope this helps
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[Marnix35001056qh80]

Sure, some of our customers use RIPS but some don't.  Epson driver settings is no problem as you can save the settings you need as windows default settings for this printer.