Problem with Photoshop CC automatically resizing placed images

[chicagonature]

Problem: I can't stop Photoshop from auto-resizing when I DRAG a layer (or layers) from one image to another.

First, I UNCHECKED "Resize Image During Place" and "Always Create Smart Object When Placing" and then exited and restarted Photoshop.

Then, when I drag the layers of an image that's 499x734 pixels (W x H)  at 72dpi into an image that's 1599x734 at 72 dpi, Photoshop resizes the placed layers. But the resolutions are the same. Even dragging just one layer doesn't work.

It only works when I SELECT ALL and then COPY each layer in one at a time (or Copy Merged), but their alignments are now off.

Thanks for any help you can give.

    Mike

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Then, when I drag the layers of an image that's 499x734 pixels (W x H)  at 72dpi into an image that's 1599x734 at 72 dpi, Photoshop resizes the placed layers.

I can’t reproduce that, could you post screenshots taken at View > 100% to illustrate the behaviour?

[chicagonature]

As you requested, the screen shots are shown below.

The first shows both images and the layers in the "source" file (left) that I'll be dragging over to the target image the right. In the target image, the white space is the exact width of the source file (499 pixels). You can see their dimensions in the info box at the bottom of the image windows.

The second screen shot shows what happens after I Shift-Drag the highlighted layers from the source image onto the target image. Here, I dragged the image in and the moved the layers over most of the white area to show how the width is wider than 499 pixels. To best show you this result, a little bit of the copied layers are cut off at the bottom. Overall, the copied IMAGE LAYER(S) GOT BIGGER (in both dimensions). Oddly, the TEXT LAYER was NOT resized.

The third screen shot shows my preferences, just in case there was any doubt.

I hope this helps.

Thanks,

    Mike

FIRST SCREEN SHOT (BEFORE): Layers palette shows picture on left.

SECOND SCREEN SHOT (AFTER): Layers palette shows picture on right.

THIRD SCREEN SHOT: PREFERENCES

[Bob Somrak]

You copied image on the right has a wider crop than the image on the left.  What does the layer structure look like for the left image?

[chicagonature]

Hi Bob,

I'm not sure what you mean, but I think all of the info is right there in the screen shots. The image on left is 499 pixels wide. After it was dragged over (screen shot 2), it's wider. In the first screen shot, the layer palette is for the picture on the left (source). The 2nd screen shot has the layer palette for the target image, which now includes the newly dragged layers. In both shots, you can also see the rulers. The white area in the picture to the right is the same width (499 pixels) as the picture on the left.

Mike

[Bob Somrak]

If you look at the two photos there is more space on both sides of tree trunks at the top on the right photo so the crop is not the same  (its wider)  Look at the wall on the left and small limbs on the right in both photos.  The right photo is DIFFERENT.

[chicagonature]

Bob,

I see what you mean.

The image on the left is cropped, but the pixels were not deleted by choice when I cropped it. For instance, a "Reveal All" will restore the image to the original before cropping. There is hidden information in the cropped photo. So, the question is, "Does dragging a cropped image/layer to a new image supposed to drop in the uncropped (revealed) image?" Is this a bug? When you simply copy and paste the layer(s), it doesn't revert back to the pre-cropped image.

Mike

[Bob Somrak]

It seems against logic that your copy process would "uncrop" the photo.  Seems like a bug to me but an "expert" will have to explain what is happening If it is as-designed behavior.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

I fail to see the problem or notice any actual re-sizing.

If the pixel Layers extend beyond the Canvas in the one image the previously invisible areas can become visible in the larger image they have been dragged to.

[chicagonature]

The problem resides in its lack of logic:

1. Why would anyone crop an image only to find out that their dragging what they are NOT seeing (the hidden, uncropped image)? If I wanted to drag the hidden image, I'd use REVEAL ALL, which shows the uncropped image, and then I'd drag it over.. Also,. I worked on this picture over 5 years ago. It'd be illogical for anyone to remember that their is additional image hidden behind the scenes..
2. If it were meant to automatically chose the hidden image, then it would have to be logical that a Select All (CTRL/CMD+A) would select the full "hidden image." But that would be crazy.

Now that we now know what's happening, it's now time (as Bob suggested) for an Adobe developer to take a look at it. So, how does one alert a someone at Adobe?

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Why would anyone crop an image only to find out that their dragging what they are NOT seeing (the hidden, uncropped image)?

If you wanted to delete the Layer content that extends beyond the Canvas you should have set the Crop Tool to »Delete Cropped Pixels« or used  Image > Crop (after invoking Select > Select All).

Also you could apply Layer Masks to the Layers that extend beyond the Canvas (or a Group containing all the Layers).

1. If it were meant to automatically chose the hidden image, then it would have to be logical that a Select All (CTRL/CMD+A) would select the full "hidden image." But that would be crazy.

No, »Select All« would select the Canvas, not the hidden content.

Edit: And you seem to have described as much in the original post.

Now that we now know what's happening, it's now time (as Bob suggested) for an Adobe developer to take a look at it.

No, the various features involved in this work as expected.

Edit: To me it seems you confuse images and Layers – a Layer is not necessarily just what is visible on the image’s Canvas and as far as I’m concerned dragging a Layer to another image should not degrade that content.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Also if you actually place an image with pixel content extending beyond its Canvas (File > Place …) it will be placed as cropped to its Canvas dimensions.

[JRfromPTC]

I also couldn't replicate your issue. Does it happen when you right click and duplicate layers?

[chicagonature]

I highlight one or more layers in the "source" image and then I drag (or shift+drag) the layer(s) over to the "target" image. Simple as that. I don't understand what you mean by "duplicate layers." I'm moving layers from one image to another.

[DillWood]

(abuse removed)

The issue is that in newer versions of PS the dragged on image (which createds a new layer) snap to the width or height and scale to fit the container.  Older versions of PS did not do this.  It's an extremely annoying behavior that adds more steps to the workflow of cropping a set of images.  

The answer to this is to go into preferences and untick "Resize image during place", which is ticked by default.

[War Unicorn]

If I recall, "resize image" only applies itself if the image being placed is larger than the target. (i.e., It resizes itself down to fit the target.)