puppet warp error message

[bartonlew]

I wanted to use puppet warp to align the 2 layers in the image below.  I placed a pin just above the eyebrow of the man's profile; I then placed another pin over the white writing on the frame to the left of his head to drag the scrawls in alignment - but got the error message shown.  The file is rather large (see 2nd screen shot).  Is this why?  Is there an alternative to using puppet wrap for resizing sections  of a layer while keeping others stable/stationary?  Thank you.

[bartonlew]

The Photo>Photo Merge>Panorama option in Lightroom works better for my money for creating composites.  It is somewhat less forgiving than PS's Photomerge but it is more sensitive to aligning material and matching exposure.  AND you can output your composite as a DNG - which i love.  I do that, do some editing in Bridge of the DNG if needed and then open the composite in PS. 

I did save all my original images - I never delete them.

[JJMack]

I would think Ligtroom Photomerge and ACR Photomerge would be one and the same thing.  And even tough they creates DNG file for the merge image there will be no RAW camera data in the file if Lightroom and ACR stitch Jpeg images.

IMO you should use Photoshop when creating composites you want your images image in smart object layers. Also Image shot with different focal length lens may be hard to composite well seamlessly for the images will have different perspectives and exposures. You need Photoshop tools and features to do a good job.

If you want to stitch Images seamlessly you need to take the picture with stitching in mind and use the proper equipment  and settings like use  a panohead and manual exposures with all  camera setting are the same.  Hand held exterior picture may stitch quit well but do not expect to be able to stitch a 360 spherical panorama using hand held exposures. Photoshop is most likely not the best application foe stitching 360 Spherical panoramas,

[bartonlew]

I would think Ligtroom Photomerge and ACR Photomerge would be one and the same thing. 

Well I don't think so, but it would be good to confirm.  I have read posts about how they can give different results and it's good to play around with them to see that and that's certainly been my experience.  I can take the same files and get different results using the 2, and in some cases one can't even perform the merge while the other can.

And even tough they creates DNG file for the merge image there will be no RAW camera data in the file if Lightroom and ACR stitch Jpeg images.

Well I don't shoot jpg's only RAW files so that isn'tt an issue I don't think.

IMO you should use Photoshop when creating composites you want your images image in smart object layers. Also Image shot with different focal length lens may be hard to composite well seamlessly for the images will have different perspectives and exposures. You need Photoshop tools and features to do a good job.

But you're not compositing smart objects, that comes after the composite is made, right?  I would never try to composite images that were shot with different focal lengths.  I try to match perspective, focal length,exposure etc. as closely as I can when creating a composite; if you have to use PS to correct your images before you do the composite, you're working too hard, and probably not going to get the best result anyway.

[JJMack]

bartonlew  wrote

Well I don't think so, but it would be good to confirm. 

Well I don't shoot jpg's only RAW files so that isn'tt an issue I don't think.

But you're not compositing smart objects, that comes after the composite is made, right?

I think you can get different results every time you develop a particulate RAW file in Lightrooms develop module  it how you use the ui settings and you can do the same in ACR UI.   You should also be able to get the same results in Lightroom's Develop module as you do in ACR and get the same results in lightroon module as you do with ACR.  ACR and Lightroom develop module use the same Adobe Raw conversion engine. The have different UI for developing the raw data. Adobe does not supply a Lightroon Develop Plug-in for Photoshop when you open  a lightroom developed RAW file in Photoshop opens it via ACR.  Photoshop Does not support RAW Camera data.  Photoshop uses its ACR Plug-in for Camera RAW data support.

As for Photomerge I believe it is quationible if Photomerge DNG File contain any camera RAW data.  RAW data has been converted to a RGB Image which been adjusted. These RGB images are lens corrected for the projection, merges and blended  during the Photonerge processes. Camera raw data is not being used  in this process a merges RGB Image is produced.   How does one convert an RGB image to Camera mosaic sensor image. I do no believe that code that can do that exists. Call me Thomas the none believer.

If you are stitching a panorama  you are stitching a collection of images into a scene. You are correct that would not be done using Photoshop smart object layers . You would use stitching software like Photomergs, Autopano Giga  software designed to stitch panoramas.

[bartonlew]

Thank you for your additional information and comments.

[Jeff Arola]

Okay i see the dimensions in you second screenshot.

This leads me to believe the pixel dimension size limit for puppet warp may be 30,000 px x 30,000 px, though someone from adobe would have verify that.

[JJMack]

Use Image size check resample leave the 8' size change the print resolution from 300 to 100 pixel per inch and click ok it will reduce the number of pixels you have in you document. You current canvas size is 27797x28694=797,549,730Pixel  How did you create all those pixels Part of you composite look like you may have use a image or two from a camera. I quite sure yiy camera doe bot capture 800MP images