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Question

"Remember this setting" for jpg save format options

Forum|Forum|6 years ago
December 26, 2019
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When I save jpg files I almost always want to use, "quality 12 & baseline optimized," having learned this to be very reasonable from demo testing run by the guru Deke McClelland (of the Lynda product tutorial series).

So to save a file it is shift-cntrl/S, navigate to folder, edit name, enter. Then up pops the jpeg options dialog, which will stay at "Q12 baseline optimized" for an open set of files after you've set it for the first, but does it's own thing if the files were not all open to start with. If it has changed (and having to look to check is itself time consuming), then using a keyboard-only workflow for speed, one must: nail the up-arrow key to get to 12, then tab-tab as needed to get to the radio buttons for the compression setting, then spacebar to select the choice in my case baseline optimized.

Clearly there is time to be saved if I had a way to lock the JPEG options settings dialog, and that is my feature request.

PS I understand that an action will save files and I have an action to do that but whenever you use an action you get involved in more checking to make sure it is doing only what you want, plus opening and scrolling around actions to find the one you want is also time consuming. Finally it's not as direct as a simple settings lock.

Feature request

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D Fosse

Community Expert

The most time-saving way to do this is to record an action. Then all you need to do is press an F-key. Done.

A jpeg is normally a final end product for sending out anyway, not for archive, and definitely not for further processing. A jpeg deteriorates with every resave. Your master files should be TIFF or PSD. So you may as well have a fixed "outbox"-folder that the action points to, and send out jpegs from there.

Another thing is that quality 12 sort of defeats the whole purpose of jpeg, which is to save bandwidth for web or electronic delivery like e-mail. Even at quality 12 you never get the original quality back. Reducing that to, say, 8, will give you a dramatic reduction in file size, while still not introducing immediately noticeable visual degradation.

BeachcolonistAuthor

Inspiring

Thank you very much for your time, I emphasize my sincere thanks and I mean it, because I am going to do nothing hereafter but sincerely criticise your reply for the almost complete lack of merit in my case. It does contain bits of data that are marginally useful, to novices.

1. The totality of my post is a "feature request" and that is why this point gets a stand-alone paragraph (paragraph two). It is not an "how to' inquiry.
2. I address your action solution as "p.s." to prevent replies from seguing there. In general the careful detail of my post was designed to prevent off-topic replies.
3. Your view of the appropriateness of a format ("A jpeg is normally ...") is both uninivited and incorrect in my case. It is subjective about what jpeg is, wrong that it "deteriorates" and what "master files" should be (you presume to know what the original format was, overlooking it could be jpeg). The suggestion of an outbox is both trivial and wrong for the work at hand because we have 10,000 files that each share the exact same name (think about that). These are errors of presumption, that are not correct about the project that instigated my requested new feature. In fact jpeg 12 is the right compression, there is no bandwidth issue, jpeg is the original and archive both, and these files all have the exact same name because they are accessed by a database for the same purpose, and reside in folders with other associated files to which they are applied by an application. They therefore cannot reside in the same fixed "outbox." Presumptions about a workflow and wandering off the narrow path of inquiry lead to a gobbledegook reply. Why you offer a method at all is curious; I never hint anywhere (I hope) that I have not already mastered the fundamentals of digital imaging.
4. Q12 jpeg does not "defeat" anything, it is exactly the most appropriate for the purpose here. This was established with real testing, not by mere presumption about Q numbers.
5. In conclusion your reply is wrong consistently from beginning to end. It demonstrates a rush to make a reply without a proper reading of the issue for content combined with some overuse of truisms that are not necessisarily true. One cannot improve a workflow process by applying just good intentions; improvement has to respect the hard real details of the work at hand.

I have 45 years in photography, 35 writing technically, and two decades in the software. I understand that this board is full of people who demonstrate poor English comp and ask unlearned questions. It is also full of problem solvers who do not read the post and stay within a framework expressed by it. This results in a rather tricky intersection where request meets reply.

Accept my sincere thanks for you taking your time. Accept my sincere criticism in the spririt of seeking excellence in the workplace.

D Fosse

Community Expert

You're welcome 😉

You have no idea how many people are blissfully unaware of the fact that a jpeg is inevitably degraded with every resave. So in the interest of the general flow of information, I feel obliged to inform of this fact with every opportunity. This forum isn't a one-to-one private correspondence. I don't know how many people read or will read that post I wrote, but over time it can easily be thousands or more.

I'm saving people from destroying their files. Nothing personal.

Stephen Marsh

Community Expert

I understand that this is a feature request/wish list item. I don't know why the new forum offers this feature when my understanding is that feature requests should be made at the feedback site:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop

As this forum is a user to user forum, practical answers are offered, as product users can't do much else:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/how-to-change-jpeg-default-settings/m-p/10676771#M270510

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sfnuboblcd2r9cp/Save%20As.atn?dl=0

Actions and scripts can have custom keyboard shortcuts applied to them.

BeachcolonistAuthor

Inspiring

1. Thanks I'll repost this request to the address you provided.

2. Yes user forum quality advice indeed, and doesn't America have a huge reading/writing problem, packed inside an ego problem! People cannot seem to write up an issue, or read a post for content, then they cannot write an instruction, and then they take umbrage when this is pointed out and crack back. Conversely; call Adobe support in India and some brilliant person will work fluidly with you for an hour, go figure. With that in mind I appreciate your reply for it's solidity.

3. The link to a solution for a panel is not at all what I want - it's the action-based workaround I do not prefer. I am not into depending on scripts, because over the decades I have seen enough balky updates that I do not want to be invested in personal customizations that wind up lost, if I can avoid it. But it is reasonable and useful advice so thanks, if my relationship with the software changes maybe I will become comfortable with scripts. For now, working the panel with the keyboard is practically as good (fast) as initiating an action or keyboard shortcut.

However, the properly logical thing, respecting the workflow for which the software is designed, would be a lockable options panel.

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