Re: Cannot save photos as jpg with new V24.0

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February 1, 2025
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Renewing the topic. Very easy (in previous Photoshops) to save a file as jpgs. Now impossible to do it FAST. I want JPG 12 (the biggest quality). Action for it. Actions gone totally stupid, they are not able to memorize the name! So it takes the name from different pictures! Unusable! I must save many (hundreds) files as jpgs. Once easy task, now for ages. Actions won't help. How to do it and safe the highest possible quality (12)? Export enables only 7. Thanks for any tip and thanks Adobe for ruining the possibilites of standard work!!!! 😞 😞 😞

D Fosse

Community Expert

safe the highest possible quality (12)? Export enables only 7.

By @vvv---vvv

Export 7 = Save 12.

Export uses a different encoding engine with fewer discrete steps from lowest to highest. Save For Web uses an older engine with as much as 100 steps. How many steps are practically useful is up for debate, since you can't precisely predict file size anyway, that depends on image content.

Save For Web can be actioned. If you assign an F key that's as fast as it gets. Export still doesn't work in actions.

BTW, just so it's said, "maximum" quality jpeg is still destructive and degrading the original file. For most practical purposes it pays to go down a few steps, which considerably reduces file size, with little or no immediately visible difference.

vvv---vvvAuthor

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It's completely different value when you want to use ICC profiles etc. Really. I cannot use this kind of compression, whereas I could easily used standard "previous" type of default compression for jpg saved from INDD. ...

jane-e

Community Expert

How to do it and safe the highest possible quality (12)?
By @vvv---vvv

You replied to a thread from 2022 about version 24.0. Things have changed and the issue has been fixed.

When Apple made changes to the API and broke the Save As in Photoshop, the developers were left to find a fix.
As of 22.4.1, you can find png, jpg, pdf, etc., in Save a Copy.
As of 22.4.2 you can revert to the previous behavior in Preferences > File Handling > File Saving Options:

Enable Legacy Save As
Do not append Copy to filename

https://petapixel.com/2021/05/18/photoshops-save-as-function-has-changed-on-mac-heres-why/

Jane

vvv---vvvAuthor

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Thank you, but it's not the answer I am looking for. I don't care about the world "copy" in the name of the file. I need to save many files as jpgs, which I can do easily by Actions. But not in the New Photoshop. The New Photoshop is not able to assing the name of the file to the file! You can try it an you will see. So when I do the action for "save as" to make a .jpg file (I really don't care if it's only "save" or "save as"), it uses the name of the file which was used in the first file while I am recording the action! Trully. Unbeliavable! So I can't do the action for saving files as jpgs. For saving, let's say at about 500 files like this. How to do it? How you do it? Manually? I don't believe... Thank you for any advice how to do an easy task which was very common and simple till the late years.

Stephen Marsh

Community Expert

No, it's a same issue, just 1/ I see it's needed to emphasize Export doesn't allow high compressing for jpgs (7 is max), so for many situations this is not an option, and 2/ I like to do the thing repeatedly, for more files, using Actions which doesn't work (but worked perfectly in previous versions).

So thank anyone else for advice!

@vvv---vvv – 7 is the equivalent of 12. There are just fewer steps between the extremes.

I created the following table back in 2021. Here you can see that a level 12 JPEG is 3.4 MB and Export As level 7 is 3 MB. The minor file size differences are due to metadata included in the Save As vs. it being removed in Save for Web and Export As. The algorithms are different and don't save at the same size, but removing metadata makes them much closer to each other. The quality of 12 in Save vs. 7 in Export As is visually similar.

Photoshop 2021
Save As		Save for Web (Legacy)		Export As
Save As JPEG, Level 12 Baseline Standard	3,382,351 bytes (3.4 MB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 100	3,035,739 bytes (3 MB on disk)	Export As, Great (7)	2,951,329 bytes (3 MB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 11 Baseline Standard	2,549,259 bytes (2.6 MB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 92	2,520,944 bytes (2.5 MB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 10 Baseline Standard	2,072,956 bytes (2.1 MB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 84	2,128,221 bytes (2.1 MB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 9 Baseline Standard	1,813,312 bytes (1.8 MB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 76	1,826,102 bytes (1.8 MB on disk)	Export As, Excellent (6)	1,835,030 bytes (1.8 MB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 8 Baseline Standard	1,597,234 bytes (1.6 MB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 68	1,579,870 bytes (1.6 MB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 7 Baseline Standard	1,245,822 bytes (1.2 MB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 60	1,301,819 bytes (1.3 MB on disk)	Export As, Very Good (5)	1,324,234 bytes (1.3 MB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 6 Baseline Standard	905,668 bytes (909 KB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 52	1,173,631 bytes (1.2 MB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 5 Baseline Standard	837,439 bytes (840 KB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 44	742,928 bytes (745 KB on disk)	Export As, Good (4)	695,320 bytes (696 KB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 4 Baseline Standard	786,204 bytes (786 KB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 36	658,904 bytes (659 KB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 3 Baseline Standard	740,953 bytes (741 KB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 28	596,724 bytes (598 KB on disk)	Export As, Fair (3)	590,963 bytes (594 KB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 2 Baseline Standard	753,850 bytes (758 KB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 20	546,622 bytes (549 KB on disk)	Export As, Poor (2)	563,817 bytes (565 KB on disk)
Save As JPEG, Level 1 Baseline Standard	709,518 bytes (713 KB on disk)	Save for Web (Legacy), Quality 12	437,863 bytes (438 KB on disk)	Export As, Very Poor (1)	498,396 bytes (500 KB on disk)

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