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Save For Web is slowing down my work flow

Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2018 Jan 24, 2018

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Hi,

I'm hoping someone can help, and I've done a search and nothing seems to fit what I'm wondering. I always save for web for all my photos after I finish editing with them. On my old Computer whenever I did that it would take a good 30secs-1min for the image to optimize and finally allow me to save it. I just built a new computer which is quite beastly, running and editing most images on M.2 Flash SSD or regular SSD when previously only on HDD. I thought it would be much faster, saving PSD certainly is, but saving for web remains the same speed, if it is faster I certainly can't notice it. All my other programs like premiere for video editing, and even just saving PSD has increased in speed dramatically but the save for web remains about the same. Can anyone help with a solution to speed this up?

To be fair I edit mostly 46/36 megapixel photos that have been exported as jpg on either capture one or LR at full size. My PSD files are usually 350mbs uncompressed. Is the big megapixel attributing to this? Even after I significantly upgraded my PC? How can there be no speed gain?

OLD PC:

  • I5-4760K
  • 16GB RAM 1300
  • 1tb HDD
  • GTX 660TI

NEW PC

  • i7-8700K
  • 32GB RAM 3200
  • 500GB M.2 Flash SSD
  • GTX 1070ti

Any tips would be appreciated, Thanks!

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Community Expert , Jan 24, 2018 Jan 24, 2018

Save For Web is not designed for big files. This is for screen-sized images for web or mobile devices, 800 - 1500 pixels or so.

For larger files, use a regular "Save As" to jpeg.

That said, the new Export module should handle large files better - but this is still not intended for anything other than screen-sized images.

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Save For Web is not designed for big files. This is for screen-sized images for web or mobile devices, 800 - 1500 pixels or so.

For larger files, use a regular "Save As" to jpeg.

That said, the new Export module should handle large files better - but this is still not intended for anything other than screen-sized images.

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That makes alot of sense, didn't think about it that way. However I remember a few years ago on my old pc resorting to doing just that and for some reason whenever I uploaded my files to dropbox and viewed/download them on my phone the color was way off. I suppose I could try it again and see but that was the reason why I never did the save as method.

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The purpose of Save For Web is to optimize fast loading on the internet - you can try different file compression methods and directly check visual impact and upload times.

As for color - convert to sRGB and embed the profile. There are checkboxes for that.

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I had those options checked off, which is what had me confused, I did a bunch of things to try to figure out why the color shifted, and nothing seemed to be the answer. It may have been my old phone causing issues too maybe. I'll give it a try again and see. Thanks.

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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I've been having this problem as well on my 2023 M2 Max macbook with 32g memory. I defiinitely don't remember having this issue on my old 2019 intel macbook. I understand the your reasoning for the Save for Web module not being designated for large files but isn't the point of the Save for Web function just that, to save files for web applications. Meaning, using the Save for Web module to control and manipulate those large files to be web applicable, thus "saving for the web"? I understand the new Export As... module looks like its somewhat similar in function to the Save for Web module. Just interesting to me that there doesn't seem to be much distinction between the two, imo. 

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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@up_lifted – Save for Web (Legacy) is based on old ImageReady code, which has an input limit of 8,192px on the longest edge (larger content is scaled down before output).

 

Export As is "meant" to replace this old code, it uses new code and offers some new features, however, it doesn't offer feature parity with the old code and can't currently be recorded into actions or used with scripts. Export As also has an input limit of 15,000px on the longest edge.

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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@up_lifted wrote:

Just interesting to me that there doesn't seem to be much distinction between the two, imo. 


 

The fact that they added “Legacy” to the end of the Save for Web command name is probably the distinction you’re looking for. The term “Legacy” helps us remember that it’s old and that Adobe hopes to rip it out of Photoshop as soon as they can and let the newer Export As take over. The reason they haven’t done that yet is Export As can’t completely replace all the features of Save for Web yet.

 

The other thing about naming a feature “Legacy” is to let us know that if there is a major architectural problem with that feature, it will probably never be fixed because they have essentially stopped working on it. For example, performance problems related to basic architectural problems with Save for Web probably work fine in the more modern Export As code. So if there is a performance problem with Save for Web, Adobe probably considers Export As to be the fix for that.

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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Indeed.

 

If they could just finish Export. It still has two major deal-breakers that have just been ignored for years. One, its color management is partly broken. Two, it still can't be recorded in actions.

 

Those two effectively render it useless.

 

In addition, some people have been annoyed at the simplified and much coarser jpeg compression scale, which doesn't allow fine tuning of the file size.

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May 30, 2024 May 30, 2024

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I use SfW in production because Export (both versions) is useless.

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May 30, 2024 May 30, 2024

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@InsomniakMedia I'd also prefer to archive my original as tiff or PSD, make a copy - resize the copy image correctly for its destination, then sharpen (unsharp mask) and now convert to sRGB and save as Jpeg, this gives you proper control over the process.

 

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