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October 28, 2022
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Simplify "SAVE AS"

  • October 28, 2022
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The latest updates to Photoshop made saving files more complicated. It adds many more clicks. Good design is about simplifying; not complicating.

 

-Prompt to save to creative cloud by default. (this is not desirable at all, please make this feature optional; not default)

 

-When saving a PSD to JPG, it now requires an extra step to click 'save as a copy button' before the use can pick JPG format. This is unecessary extra clicks that add friction. Imagine having to do this hundreds of times a day. 

 

The 'Save as' function used to be perfect with one page and one selection drop down menu. Nice and simple. Now it has added two points of friction for users. The solution is easy, revert to the original version and make cloud options optional and let those who want that do the extra clicks. Photoshop should be designed for professionals and professionals care about speed and efficiency. Our files are also often over a GB and perform fastest when stored on a local drive. Please fix the 'Save as' function.

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    Correct answer jane-e

    This is unecessary extra clicks that add friction. Please fix the 'Save as' function. 

    By @Photo References

     

     

    @Anya Anti wrote: 

    Could somebody explain to me the idea behind that decision? 

     

     

    When Apple made changes to the API and broke the Save As in Photoshop, the developers were left to find a fix that was cross-platform. They fixed this two versions ago in Photoshop 22.4.2

     

    • You can find png, jpg, pdf, etc., in Save a Copy
      or
    • You can revert to the previous behavior in Preferences > File Handling > File Saving Options:
      Enable Legacy Save As
      Do not append Copy to filename


    You can leave a message for Apple here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html 

     


    ~ Jane

     

     

    10 replies

    geoff bowers
    geoff bowers
    Participating Frequently
    April 28, 2023

    I agree  Please restore to the previous menu.

    Geoff Bowers

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    williamd62414328
    Known Participant
    December 16, 2022

    I thing the best way I found is to click on save as then rename the photo and type the .JPG dont pick jpg from list a littel box pops up and hit return again close it and saved

     

    janetm62681729
    janetm62681729
    Known Participant
    December 16, 2022

    apple is not the one i am paying. but regarless you didn't read any of the other posts.   the legacy checkbox didn't work at but we did solve it. somehow pref were on 16 bit. not 8. so simple!

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      djmattyz
      Inspiring
      December 13, 2022

      amen to that, it is driving me bananas!

       

      and it forgets the directory too, if you hit save as copy, so you have to look for it again...sigh

      D Fosse
      Community Expert
      D FosseCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      December 13, 2022

      If you look four posts up, you'll find the full and complete explanation and background for all this. Why it happened, how it worked before and how it works now and why. Everything you need to know.

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        djmattyz
        Inspiring
        December 15, 2022

        thanks,  i see that

        im just adding my 2 cent on why its a pain to work with the way it currently is set up...

         

        save (for PSD) and export (for jpg, PNG etc)  would make sense to me.

         

        when i go to save, i always forget that JPG isnt available in that menu, so i search for the destination folder then realise i have to click 'save a copy',  and then it loses the directory and i have to search again... I just find it very distracting.

          janetm62681729
          janetm62681729
          Known Participant
          November 30, 2022

          hi-i'm sorry not sure what is going on i didn't upgrade Anything recently.. and two days ago I wake up to this probem! i edit photos all day --how could they possibly take awy jpg format?? i really don't care about the reasons why. PS has gotten so glitchy it is junk. switches from baseline to progressive.  switches my other settings out of nowhere. take away shake reduction and now this? i checked the preferenece mentioned (thank you) jpg format is there but i STILL HAVE to through MANY extra steps for EACH IMAGE!! it does not HOLD the jpg and then when i save i have close out and not save each original.. CAN SOMEONE AT ADOBE FIGURE THIS OUT. this program is useless at this point.  am on mac 12. 5.1  PS 23.2.2 (reverted back for shake reduction) editing RAW canon and Nikon files.

            jane-e
            Community Expert
            jane-eCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            November 30, 2022

             

            @janetm62681729 wrote:

            "how could they possibly take awy jpg format"

             

            They didn't, Janet.

             

            Please read these short thread to find out how Adobe responded to a change made by Apple to macOS and what you can do now. This was fixed a year ago in 22.4.2.

             

            Jane

             

             

             

            janetm62681729
            janetm62681729
            Known Participant
            November 30, 2022

            it isn't fixed. i just upgraded and the same thing happens.  can you simplify for me please.  on a deadine and adobe just gave wrong info. here are my file handling pref. and here is what happens when i save.... i have to choose jpg every time and then separate step close the image.  thanks

             

             

             

            D Fosse
            Community Expert
            D FosseCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            October 29, 2022

            I doubt that's going to happen. A bit of historical context:

             

            Prior to Photoshop CS5 in 2010, you couldn't save to jpeg at all, if the file didn't already conform to the jpeg file format specification. You had to flatten the file to remove all layers and transparency, convert to 8 bit, and delete any alpha channels. Then, and only then, was it possible to save the file as jpeg.

             

            In 2010, to a fair bit of fanfare, a "hack" was introduced in Photoshop CS5. You could now save directly to jpeg, all those operations would be performed automatically, and you would get a jpeg copy directly from Save As. This was all new, never seen in any other software before or since. It was a big selling point at the time.

             

            Then Apple changed the rules (as they frequently do). The hack wouldn't work anymore, MacOS didn't allow it.

             

            So they came up with Save A Copy. Later, they were able to find workarounds that allowed a "legacy save" that behaved in roughly the same way, but with a real risk of unintentional overwiting of data. That's why it's not the default.

             

            That's the irony: they introduced direct save to jpeg to make users happy, and then it came back to bite them and I bet they regret it now. If they hadn't done that in CS5, it would have been business as usual the whole time and nobody would have complained.

             

            If you think "the competition" can save to jpeg from 16 bit layered files, think again. Affinity can't do it. You have to launch a separate and slow Export process.

             

            I agree that Adobe made one huge mistake in all this. They tried to sell Save A Copy as a "feature". That didn't go down well. They should have called it what it was, a rescue operation.

             

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              Photo ReferencesAuthor
              Participant
              October 28, 2022

              Hi Jane and thank you for taking the time to share your insight. The issue was precisely that the user has to click on 'Save a copy'; that is the extra friction I was referring to.

               

              As for the legacy option, thank you so much for sharing!! This was unbearable and now so much better. Really appreciate you! Thank you!

              jane-e
              Community Expert
              jane-eCommunity Expert
              Community Expert
              November 30, 2022

              You're welcome, @Photo References  🙂

               

              Jane

               

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              Photo ReferencesAuthor
              Participant
              October 28, 2022

              Thank you so much Anya, this was driving me crazy and the solution makes it so much better. Appreciate the info!

              jane-e
              Community Expert
              jane-eCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
              Community Expert
              October 28, 2022

              This is unecessary extra clicks that add friction. Please fix the 'Save as' function. 

              By @Photo References

               

               

              @Anya Anti wrote: 

              Could somebody explain to me the idea behind that decision? 

               

               

              When Apple made changes to the API and broke the Save As in Photoshop, the developers were left to find a fix that was cross-platform. They fixed this two versions ago in Photoshop 22.4.2

               

              • You can find png, jpg, pdf, etc., in Save a Copy
                or
              • You can revert to the previous behavior in Preferences > File Handling > File Saving Options:
                Enable Legacy Save As
                Do not append Copy to filename


              You can leave a message for Apple here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html 

               


              ~ Jane

               

               

                Anya Anti
                Anya Anti
                Participant
                October 28, 2022

                100% agree.  However to can go back to the legacy "Save As". Go to Preferences - File Handling and choose Enable legacy "Save As". That did the trick for me. That extra step for saving JPGs from PSDs was driving me crazy. Could somebody explain to me the idea behind that decision?

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