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December 4, 2019
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Size limit on TIF Files in Photoshop CC

  • December 4, 2019
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I know that Photoshop will not handle TIF files greater than 4 GB but I get the warning with actual files sizes very much lower and sometimes less than half the stated limit.  If possible I want to avoid the complication of using the psb "big file format" because I want to use Lightroom to manage all  photos in my library.  I'm uisng Photoshop CC 2020 run on a  PC with Windows 7, 32GB memory and a 20TB hard drive so I can't see that it's a problem of process ing capacity.  Has anyone come across the same issue what is the solution please?  Or, is there some  preference to set or hidden lever I have to release?

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PECourtejoie
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Community Expert
December 5, 2019

Hello, Photoshop can't know how large the size will be, so might be conservative when authorizing to save.

Participating Frequently
December 6, 2019

OK, I see the logic but I'm struggling with the idea that the designers built in a 75% comfort margin. Any file above 1GB is being refused against a stated maximum of 4GB.  It also looks to me as though Photoshop does know the size of the file because it goes 99% of the way through a TIF save before declaring it too big.  Since this doesn't seem to be a common problem I suspect it's something very simple I have wrong in my settings or system.  Like searching for the Holy Grail...possibly a long and fruitless journey!

 

Until I find a solution I have adopted an idea found on another forum which  at least  allows psb files to be "visible" in Lightroom.  I will list the method here in case it is of use to someone else and because I was able simplify things and omit a number of steps without apparent problems;

1. In PS create a new document then File>Place Linked and point to the psb file thereby creating a smart object which will automatically synch with the big document file

2. Save the new PS document as a TIF file in the same directory as the original psb then open LIghtroom and synch that directory so that the image is visible in the library

3.  You can now open the TIF file in Lightroom and send it to PS for editing in the usual way.  When the TIF loads into PS click on the smart layer and the psb file will open for editing.

 

davescm
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 6, 2019

You might also want to add your voice and vote for the feature request below:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom_support_cataloging_psb_files

Dave

PECourtejoie
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 4, 2019

Hello, can we have some specs about the files, pixel dimensions, bit depht, number of layers, big smart objects?

Does it happen on all TIF files?

Participating Frequently
December 4, 2019

Hi.  Here is the information for one sample file; pixels 9928x5960, bit depth 16, 21 layers in five groups including one smart layer (a duplication of the base layer) with a filter applied.  Photoshop (in the border ribbon) shows the image size as 339M and the file size as 1.5GB.  As saved the size of the psb file for the same photo  is 1.8GB.  It is happening with almost all files in which pixel layers are added.  

 

 

Legend
December 4, 2019

Sorry, I've just realised what you meant about compression.  The answer is no, I never apply compression.


So, you are just assuming that the TIFF should be the same size as the PSB? 

Have you checked this on files which you do manage to save? Please post sizes of both, as saved with your settings.

Legend
December 4, 2019

This may seem a strange question, but if you can't save the TIFF, how do you know what size it ought to be? You can't use any other measure (e.g. memory usage, pixel dimension, PSB size...) as a reference.

Participating Frequently
December 4, 2019

I see your point. Sorry, I wasn't clear.  When I reluctantly accept the option to save it as a psb then it's the size of that file I referred to.  I assumed the TIF file, if it could be saved,  would be no larger. In addition, Photoshop is also showing the  file size, as I work it up with additional layers and before attempting to save it, as well below 4 GB.

December 4, 2019

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