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April 13, 2022
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Specular highlights on a painting

  • April 13, 2022
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Hi Everyone,

I have spectral highlights from lighting an extremely textured painting on location.  I'm trying to find a way to reduce those highlights without actually altering the painting too much or taking away from it's texture.  I've mostly tried to work on it using the clone stamp on 'darken'.  Not sure if there is a better way.

thanks,

 

ps 23.2.2

LR 11.2

Mac os 12.2.1

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Trevor.Dennis
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April 14, 2022

I wonder if you can retake the photograph?  There is a lot to photographing art work, and and all the more so with things like oil paintings with a smoth reflective surface.   One of our regular posters @D Fosse  does this for a living and he would be able to advise.

 

Joe McNally covered it in one of his books (either The Moment it Clicks, or more probably, The Hot Shoe Diaries).  The ultimate book for technical lighting etc. is Light Science & Magic by Fil Hunter.  It's a title all serious photographers should own.

    D Fosse
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    April 14, 2022
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    One of our regular posters @D Fosse  does this for a living and he would be able to advise.


    By @Trevor.Dennis

     

    I do, and I'd say do it again. This is impossible to fix globally. The only chance is to go in and clone/heal every single spot, and you can't really do that without going crazy before you've covered 10%. And end up with a different painting.

     

    Cross-polarized lighting kills reflections like these: polarizing film on the light sources (has to be flash so the film won't melt), and a polarizer on the lens, rotated 90 degrees. But the heavily textured paint adds another dimension that you don't want to lose, so I'd combine that with a little bounce light from the ceiling, just to bring out a little texture.

     

    All in all, a pretty complicated lighting setup.

     

    Oh, btw, this is called specular highlights, as Stephen says (speculum = mirror).

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      SRPcashieAuthor
      Inspiring
      April 14, 2022

      The problem is I have profoto monolights and it's pretty tough to get the film on them without melting it.  I'd need to buy reflectors for all of them (..very expensive).  And then, I usually use shoot through umbrellas which I couldn't use with reflectors since they don't make the lights the way they used to make them.  So how would I be able to work this out?  I've been trying to figure this out for many many years.  I shoot artwork all the time.  I have for about 20 years.

      Stephen Marsh
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      Stephen MarshCommunity Expert
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      April 14, 2022

      It may help if you can rename the post to Specular highlights for clarity.

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        SRPcashieAuthor
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        April 14, 2022

        Don't know how...

        davescm
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        davescmCommunity Expert
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        April 14, 2022

        I've renamed it for you

        Dave

          Conrad_C
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          Conrad_CCommunity Expert
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          April 13, 2022

          Have you tried applying the Camera Raw filter (Filter > Camera Raw Filter), and reducing the Highlights and/or Whites values? The demo below shows this being done to the entire image, with a before/after toggle comparison at the end.

           

           

          If you want to restrict where it’s applied, you can do it quickly by using the masking tools inside Camera Raw. For example, you could apply a Linear Gradient mask to restrict the adjustment to the upper half, a Brush to paint it in wherever you want, or a Luminance Range mask to restrict it to the lightest tones only.

           

          You can also enhance texture by applying Clarity and Texture adjustments with a Brush mask.

          davescm
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          davescmCommunity Expert
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          April 13, 2022

          Can you crop a small area and post it as a single layer tiff so we can see what you are dealing with

           

          Dave

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          SRPcashieAuthor
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          April 13, 2022
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          davescm
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          davescmCommunity Expert
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          April 13, 2022

          Hi

          That is nasty.

          You can take hide a fair bit by duplicating the layer setting the duplicate layer to 'Darker Color' then nudging the duplicate 1 px to the right and 1 px up using the right and up arrow keys. You could try 2px to the right but any more and you start to see a duplicate image.

          The restrictions of the GIF format below will ruin the color but hopefully you will get the idea:

           

          You can avoid the problem when shooting by using linear polarising filters over the lights and camera lens

           

          Dave

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