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Inspiring
December 28, 2023
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Struggling understanding how to import image with out it degrading(blocky)

  • December 28, 2023
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Hello

I am trying to learn  and hope someone can help explain why  I can create and size an image in PS 2023 and  no matter how I try to bring it over, the image looks blocky. I am still new at this so thank you for your kindness. You can let me know  what info you need from me so you can help me . I apologize in advance for not knowing what information  provides a quick solution.

 

THe main image is 2560x2352  72 dpi

I desire an image to be reflected in an explorer's binoculars but it needs to be sharper , less "natural" then how it owuld look if really reflected.  So I created an image  to my liking that is 3540x3453  72 dpi   But the image is looking blocky when I put it in the main document.

 

The first time I tried created a smart object and duplicating it over.  

Initally I tried making it a smart object and  duplicating  it over to the main file and resizing it.  Immediately I noticed the quality was not the same,.

I have tried many ways but each time when the image gets down to correct size, it looks fine in the file  I created it in even at 300% zoom but when brought over  it is very blocky looking.

I tried 

I have tried dupllicating the layer over, tried smart object. Tried copy and paste,  . Tried saving it as Jpg and place emedded
I have tried  unchecking resample when resizing.  

According to the  rulers the image I am trying to put in the binoculars is  about 2.5" square 

I am just not sure  why the resized image looks usable in the file where it is created but  importing it  does not look the same.

I look forward to learning what I am am not understanding. Thanks

 

 

 

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Legend
December 28, 2023

1. You cannot use inches reliably. EVERYTHING in Photoshop is pixels. Measure that way.

2. Your balloon animal image is WAY too big. Yes it will look blocky when resized.

3. That's not how binoculars work, you generally can't see a reflection in the lenses.

Inspiring
December 28, 2023

Thank you Lumigraphics. 

1. I  could not change to pixels without ressampling box  selected. but it seems whether I set it to be pixels I see the the same blockiness that I was ot seeing when I changed it selecting inches.  

 

2. Yes  it is larger that is the WORKING file from the orginal, a background added and blurred than cropped.   It does NOT look blocky when resized in that image. It is only when I MOVE into the other file.  So what is the work flow to get it over to that file to fit what PS needs to make the image as clear as possible? I mean if I can zoom in on the explorer 400% and not have the same blockiness, what do I need to do to make  a downsample in size but retain clarity?

 

3. Thank you but  this is not  important and the image is not finished.  Once  lion is clear then I will add some distortion(sphere)  and then a lens flare but only minor as I want them to SEE the image as this is a promo for the show.  (artistic license) Please do not let what is "natural" inhibit from helping me get the image over and clear. 🙂

 

So what is the work flow. I ahe tried reducing  to inches because I figured it was the size that works based on the rulers.  So this way I would not have to resize.

 

I have tried reducing using  the resample box checked and unchecked

I have tried  saving  with 72 dpi and 300 dpi as this will be a 300 dpi flyer/poster as well as email blast.

I have tried putting the resized image in a smart object and without before duplicating the layer over.

I have tried copy , past transform I have tried  duplicating a resized layer over that looks usable in the original file but not the explorer.  

So I assume it is about matching  but since the images are never going to be the same SIZE  as this is just an element of a larger composite, I am not clear how  giving pixel dimensions  will help nor do I know how to find out what pixel size I need it to be. But as I said, right now both files have pixel sizes grayed out. Do the files have to be flattened? If so doesn't that defeat the purprose of non distructive, go back to it later if need be set up?  

 

I guess at this point how would the work flow be to match up the lion image so it can work with the explorer or vise versa.

Thanks

Inspiring
December 28, 2023

To complicate things further, after the image is created with combined lion and explorer I was going to drop it into the template I purchased which is 300ppi and CYMK.  I tested my explorer image and because it is 72 ppi is smaller  but when I cntrl T and transform it looks decent.   But should I be  resampling my 72ppi explorer to 300 ppi?  Is it better to try to do the lens idea in the final template rather than my working file? 

c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 28, 2023

Could you please post screenshots taken at View > 100% with the pertinent Panels (Toolbar, Layers, Options Bar, …) visible? 

Inspiring
December 28, 2023

OK, forgive me if this is not what you need to help me.  

I guess let's start with these.  Thes are the two images I am working on I want the lion in the lens which will have some affects applied.  I am a balloon artist so these are balloon binoculars and the promo is for a new show that has to start advertising very soon.  

I guess the first  question is what the work flow would be to  get the lion into the explorer file at the size that fits the lens and does not get blocky. I am working on attempting to screen shot what I am seeing but this is before the various ways I ahve tried introducting the lion into the other shot. Is this what you are looking for? Thanks

Inspiring
December 28, 2023

These two have the image info screen.  

Bojan Živković11378569
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 28, 2023

Can you show us a sample?


Make sure that the image you are placing and the parent document have the same resolution (pixels per inch) before placing the image. Alternatively, you can open the image in a separate tab, copy and paste it into the other document, and then convert it to a smart object and upscale it. You can also upscale the image first and then copy and paste it into the desired document.


Upscaling 100% should not be a huge problem or degrade the image quality significantly. Make sure that you are viewing the composition or the resulting image at 100% scaling. Press Ctrl + 1 for 100% scaling inside Photoshop.

Inspiring
December 28, 2023

Can you or someone else tell me how to check the resolution of the documents?  Where is that information in a way I can screenshot it? 

 I'm actually downscaling the size so didn't think  it It would get blocky when the same size image on its own doesn't unless what I'm seeing is not what I think it is. 

 

Is a screen shot going to show you the detail that I'm seeing. I thought a screenshot wasn't the same resolution /quality?

I'm going from a large size that I'm scaling down to become an element in a photo. So I want a smaller then original image.

 

Look, I've been struggling with all this formatting stuff for quite some time now. For example, I thought I could work with grouped smart layers and be able to do something as simple as putting, fill in a selection but it it seemed that I wasn't allowed to do that until I flattened everything which kind of defeated the purpose of of non-destructive because I couldn't go back. That's for another story. So basically I'm working with files that I isolated the background and will still have to put into a finished product which might require more adjusting. I was trying to make a composite image to move over to a template. 

But as far as I know it's all set as native default. But if I need to scale the image and I'm having trouble with so that it works with the file. Fine. I just need to learn how I can get that information. Maybe I'm looking at the original image information when I provided it, so I guess If you can, 101 instruct me on how I can see what the document container is actually and we can start there.

Again, thank you for my patience with me. I'm trying to understand this because it seems that by looking at other help topics that a lot of people have trouble understanding resolution and resampling and transforming. I thought by keeping it as a smart object that was supposed to eliminate that sort of thing. And then I still don't understand why when I've resized the item, exported it as a JPEG, and bring it in as a place embedded object. Object. It's not the same look. I can only surmise that it's because my file I'm putting it into is set to a certain size and is technically huge in dimensions compared to the actual item I'm importing.

When I left Resample unchecked ,when I sized it

But then copied it over, via cutting paste or, duplicated the layer over, , or place embedded, Even though it should have been the 2.5 in this image covered the entire image I was placing it in. So that didn't work either. When I didn't constrain it to 72 PPI but set the physical dimensions. It actually  covered the image that I was moving into even though the rulers are definitely showing in the file that it's the right size until it gets to the other main document. It's sharp image quality. But if I reduce it, it goes back to the same blocky look.

This is such a minor thing and I'm struggling with it for some time now. That is depending on the size that this actually gets printed at, It is a lot of struggle for something that they might not even notice at first. Thanks again for being patient and helping me with what I need to do as far as workflow.

Chris 486
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 28, 2023

@Mark245245051gxu ,

 

Try to show us some screenshots and your settings through screenshots if possible. It will immensely help us understand your issue with your previous descriptions. You can zoom in to your image and screen shot to show us the original and the altered image with the blockiness you describe.