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Hello
I want to buy a monitor with the adobe rgb color profile because I work in graphic design and illustration and I want the colors on the monitor to be similar to those that come out in print. I'm also going to buy a mac studio.
Do you know which are the best monitors with the adobe rbb profile? With a budget of 400 - 600€?
Thanks
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I'll tag @D Fosse and @davescm they should be able to point you in the right direction.
You should also consider a monitor calibrator.
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/buying-guides/best-monitor-calibrators
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I would recommend Eizo monitors. A colour Edge CS2420 comes at around £570 or for a bit more the larger CS2731 (I use two of these) around £900. Both are good quality and importantly are uniform across the panel. Most cheaper monitors are not uniform, so you see different colour and brightness across the panel.
For photographic image work, don't be fooled by too high a pixel density. Around 90-120 ppi is ideal as it allows you to see individual pixels at 100% and therefore adjust noise and sharpening critically. The CS 2420 is 94ppi and the CS2731 is 109ppi.
A final comment to consider when putting together your system and considering where to spend your hard earned cash. If you are serious about colour, allow yourself budget for a screen calibration and profile device such as the i1 Display or similar. Bearing in mind the screen is the most important link in the PC chain, where you actually see your images, a good quality, calibrated and profiled, screen is going to make a bigger difference to your images than for example a faster CPU or computer storage disk.
Dave
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I'm not going to bother challenging the endless ego of so labeled experts here except to say that that price is way off. Furthermore prints don't have pixels, and you are referring to interpolated display at odd magnifications. For adjusting sharpness critically for prints you view at "print size" after dividing the pixel dimension by the real monitor width in inches and entering that number in the correct box in the preferences, as sharpness in a print is apparent. Good luck with the inbred Adobe corp ego problem.
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'Furthermore prints don't have pixels'
Wrong - of course prints have pixels. Depending on the print technology, those pixels will be printed by even smaller dots.
'For adjusting sharpness critically for prints you view at "print size"'
Wrong again - print size combines several image pixels into single screen pixels. It is good for judging composition, but not for judging sharpness or blending (due to the way Photoshop uses cache levels). To do that view at 100% which is not a physical size, but maps each single image pixel onto a single screen pixel. That way you can judge both sharpening and blending.
'Good luck with the inbred Adobe corp ego problem.'
I suggest you read the community guidelines before posting.
Dave
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Furthermore prints don't have pixels
By @Beachcolonist
Wow, that's one I didn't see coming... 😄
Not sure where the "endless ego" is here. The file is nothing but pixels, represented on paper by a number of smaller ink dots. This, incidentally, is the difference between ppi and dpi.
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Just to sign off on what Dave said.
The Eizo CS series is probably the best value for money on the market today.
The monitor has a much bigger and more direct impact on the quality of your work than the computer has. That's where you should spend your money. My general advice is to split your budget in half. One half on the computer, one half on the monitor.
Make sure you get the edition that has ColorNavigator + sensor included!
One more thing, just to clear it up: don't put too much into "Adobe RGB monitor". That's just a marketing term. Any monitor has its own native color space, and that's all it needs to have. It doesn't need to match Adobe RGB. When you use these monitors, set them to "native", not "Adobe RGB" emulation. That just restricts the unit for no reason. The monitor profile describes the monitor's response as it is, and that's all that is needed for a properly color managed display pipeline.
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Wrong about "native color space is all you need."
And, we work backward, first stating what the end product will be. If it's printed media you DO NEED the capacity to display a high % of Adobe RBG color space as a printer will need that information. "Adobe RBG monitor" without a % isn't even a thing as you note, but what is pertinent is the percentage of that color space that is displayable. You get a monitor that is CAPABLE of displaying a high % of Adobe RGB, you then shoot, edit, and display on the monitor in Adobe RGB and you have a workflow.
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'Wrong about "native color space is all you need." '
That is incorrect. To display the widest gamut of which the monitor is capable you should set, calibrate and profile, using the native primaries of that monitor. A wide gamut monitor may be advertised as displaying 95% of Adobe RGB, but what that does not tell you is that it may not be able to display the full RGB colour space in some areas, but may exceed that colour space in others. Restricting such a monitor to Adobe RGB does nothing to address the parts it cannot display, but cuts down the capability to display outside the Adobe RGB space.
Dave
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You continue to violate Community Guidelines to be kind and respectful. I've reported your abuse.
Jane
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I too recommend Eizo Coloredge displays, for many reasons. $400-600 is very tight for a graphic arts level display tho
Yep Dave is right, you'll definitely need to be calibrating the screen.
I hope this helps
neil barstow, colourmanagement net - adobe forum volunteer - co-author: 'getting colour right'
google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management