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Aja Aja
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May 25, 2020
Question

Threshold layer becomes empty

  • May 25, 2020
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I am using Photoshop on a trial basis, so I'm not sure if it is the complete version. I am a novice. I have two layers - my original and a threshold layer. When I select both and try to export them, the threshold layer becomes empty and so I can save no improvement on my original. Grouping, linking or merging the layers makes no difference. How can I make this threshold layer a recognised layer that won't be seen as empty? I have also tried saving everything individually and separately as psd files, but I cannot see how to then add a layer from a separate file. It was worth a try.

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davescm
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June 21, 2021

Aja,

You say you are a novice and may be getting a little confused over how adjustment layers work.

 

Your screenshot shows you have two layers. A layer containing pixels which in your screenshot is labelled background and an adjustment layer, in your case a threshold adjustment layer. The first contains the image pixels, the second contains only the adjustment information telling Photoshop how to display the pixels below it. The adjustment layer does not contain any actual pixels, and importantly no permanent changes are made to the pixel layer below it.

 

If you save your document in a format that supports layers (e.g. PSD or TIFF) then both those separate layers are retained and the document can be reopened and the adjustment layer re-adjusted.

If you merge layers or save a copy in a format that does not support layers, then the adjustments are made permanently to the pixel layer before discarding the adjustment  layer and you are left with a single pixel layer which has those adjustments permanently baked into it.

 

When using Photoshop, adjustments should always be checked at 100% zoom, which is not a physical size but means means 1 image pixel mapped onto 1 screen pixel. This will always match before and after merging.

 

Dave

jane-e
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Community Expert
May 25, 2020

In addition to what c_p asked, what format are you exporting to? And what are you trying to achieve with the a threshold adjustment layer?

~ Jane

Aja Aja
Aja AjaAuthor
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May 25, 2020

I am trying to export to a jpg. The threshold is to reduce dirty background in an old scan.

jane-e
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Community Expert
May 25, 2020

Hi @Aja Aja ,

I'm assuming this is a scan of a text document, and not a photo from what you said earlier. Have you tried either the Levels or Curves Adjustment layers? The purpose of Threshold is to find the darkest or lightest point in the image.

 

~ Jane

c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 25, 2020

»merging the layers makes no difference.«

Could you please post a screenshot taken at View > 100% with the pertinent Panels (Layers, Channels, Options Bar, …) visible? 

Edit: One of before and one after merging. 

Aja Aja
Aja AjaAuthor
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May 25, 2020

OK. I hope the attached is enough. I cannot show a visual of the image as it contains confidential text.

 

Aja Aja
Aja AjaAuthor
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May 25, 2020

After merging the Threshold layer disappears.