TIFF superior over PSD

[StrongBeaver]

Hi, I came across this link.  What interested me was one comment, TIF format is a superior format then PSD.  What is the community opinon on this ? I sorta agree !

Wrong...PSD is now a bastardized file format that is NOT a good idea to use. Even the Photoshop engineers will tell you that PSD is no longer the Photoshop "native" file format. It has no advantages and many disadvantages over TIFF.

TIFF is publicly documented, PSD is not. That makes TIFF a preferred file format for the long term conservation of digital files.

TIFF uses ZIP compression for max compression, PSD uses RLE which if you save without the Max compatibility will be a bit smaller, but at the risk of not being able to be used by apps, like Lightroom.

TIFF can save EVERYTHING a PSD can save including layers, paths, channels, transparency, annotations and can go up to 4 GIGS in file size. TIFF can save all the color spaces PSD can. The ONLY thing I can think of that PSD can save that currently TIFF can't save is if you Save out of Camera Raw a cropped PSD, you can uncrop the PSD in Photoshop CS, CS2 or 3. That's one tiny obscure thing that PSD can do that TIFF currently doesn't. How many people even knew that let alone use it?

PSD used to be the preferred file format back before Adobe bastardized it for the Creative Suite. The moment that happened, PSD ceased to be a Photoshop "native" file format. PSB is the new Photoshop "native" file format for images beyond 30,000 pixels. And , at the moment, only Photoshop can open a PSB.

Getting back to the fist point, Adobe can do anything including stopping support for PSD because it's a proprietary file format. TIFF is public, even if it's owned by Adobe (by virtue of the Aldus purchase). Even if Adobe went belly up tomorrow, TIFF would continue.

And, let me be blunt, anybody who thinks PSD is "better" than TIFF is ignorant of the facts. If Adobe would let them, the Photoshop engineers would tell you to quit using PSD. Lightroom for the first beta did NOT support PSD and Hamburg fought tooth and nail to prevent having to accept PSD. He blinked, but you still can't import a PSD without Max compat enabled-which basically makes it a TIFF with a PSD extension.

Look, I'll make it REAL simple...

TIFF = Good
PSD = Bad

Ok?

I hope this helps with your understanding of why ACR/LR has "difficulties" with PSD.

[station_two]

Make that feature request in the ACR forum:

http://forums.adobe.com/community/cameraraw?view=discussions

[Todd Shaner]

Looks like sombody already posted the "suggestion" here:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3973805#3973805

Photoshop, ACR, and Lightroom Feature Requests are best posted here:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family

I just posted this at the Photoshop Family Feature Request site. Please add your vote, comments, suggestions, and flames here:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/raw_data_histogram_display_lightroom_and_adobe...

Thank you!

[station_two]

Well, I tried directing you to the proper forum.

The creator of both Photoshop and of Camera Raw and his ACR team are very active in the Camera Raw Forum.

The Photoshop Family Feature Request site seldom produces results.

[Todd Shaner]

As suggested I've added this request to the ACR Forum:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5845120#5845120

[StrongBeaver]

Very well written.  Kudos.

I never heard of Krita, I think I fell in Love and to think I haven't even installed it yet It looks like a solid Photoshop alternative, or a companion to my Ps 5 I haven't gone deep into Photoline yet, the interface could use some work. 

[Herbert2001]

StrongBeaver wrote:

Very well written.  Kudos.

I never heard of Krita, I think I fell in Love and to think I haven't even installed it yet It looks like a solid Photoshop alternative, or a companion to my Ps 5 I haven't gone deep into Photoline yet, the interface could use some work.

I agree that the default look is rather unattractive, especially with the colourful icons. Fortunately, Photoline's GUI look can be completely transformed now (icons can also be scaled in three steps). Here is my setup:

[StrongBeaver]

That is an attractive U.I, it does look like Ps What about slicing in Photoline, Photoshop has Photoshop generator, wondering how the alternatives are doing in that arena ?